Dova Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm feeling a bit like this today because tomorrow me & the 3 hounds leave for Melrose for the two day working dog school. I'm looking forward to it but of course I'm scared as well, you understand the whole, don't know anyone there or what to expect deal & I'm thinking will I be the in class. Anyway I am excited, sure I'll love it & learn heaps, of course I'll be sleeping in the back of the car with the three dogs so will probably get sleep deprivation , now I've got rid of a bit of nervous energy better start packing the car, let you all know what happened Monday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Enjoy yourself Dova - we have a 2 day state agility trial this weekend so that should keep us entertained for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Enjoy yourself Dova - we have a 2 day state agility trial this weekend so that should keep us entertained for the weekend. Thanks Ness I will, good luck for the agility I'll expect a full run down Monday. Got a question for you, what is after CCD in obedience, I thought it was CD, is it Novice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 in return for a full run down of the herding. I am hanging out for a masters agility and an open agility pass as she only needs 1 of each to finish off her titles. CD is Novice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Have fun Dova. No sheepies for me this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Kelpies Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Have a good time Dova. Don't worry about being the dunce of the class. The only dunces are those who never take their dogs anywhere or try to learn anything new. Who are the instructors? You'll only be sleep deprived after the first night. After that you'll be so tired you'll probably crash. Hope you're warm enough in the car. Usually dogs make lovely hot water bottles ( and they stay warm all night.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Have a good time Dova. Don't worry about being the dunce of the class. The only dunces are those who never take their dogs anywhere or try to learn anything new. Who are the instructors? You'll only be sleep deprived after the first night. After that you'll be so tired you'll probably crash. Hope you're warm enough in the car. Usually dogs make lovely hot water bottles ( and they stay warm all night.) Ben Page is the instructor at Pages Working Dog Centre and must be good as people are coming from Qld to attend his school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Kelpies Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I thought I remembered you mentioning him earlier. I met Ben and Lyn at the Kelpie Championships at Coleraine a couple of years ago and thought they were very nice. At that time they had both Borders and Kelpies and did 3 sheep and yard dog trials. I'm sure you'll have a great time and they'll give you plenty of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Hidey Ho peoples, OH of Dova here as she has rang to say she has arrived at Melrose, Flinders Ranges, for the Herding school with Ben Page around 3:15 pm after leaving at 11:10am, around 311 kms from home, no phone coverage so she had to find a place to get a phone card and rang on a land line so I will update you if that don't bore you to tears, :D The school she was going to go to at Millicent Sth East has been postponed due to lamb marking and they have moved it to the same weekend in August when we need to take the sheep to our next Herding trial, decisions, decisions. Stay tuned same bat time same bat channel :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 We did the working dog school on the weekend, enjoyed it learned plenty & would recomend it to anyone because Ben & Lyn are really nice. Unfortunately there was a down side to the weekend, the first thing I was told when I brought Izzi out was, if anyone says they're bringing a Coolie I cringe, but later he said that he'd never seen a Coollie that balances & she's the best one he's seen. I'm still glad I went & really did have a good time, everyone was friendly, Ben is a good teacher & Lyn feeds everyone soooooo well . Next is the Millicent school, if I can't get to this one I'll do the one in November, am I herding tragic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Kelpies Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 We did the working dog school on the weekend, enjoyed it learned plenty & would recomend it to anyone because Ben & Lyn are really nice. Unfortunately there was a down side to the weekend, the first thing I was told when I brought Izzi out was, if anyone says they're bringing a Coolie I cringe, but later he said that he'd never seen a Coollie that balances & she's the best one he's seen. I'm still glad I went & really did have a good time, everyone was friendly, Ben is a good teacher & Lyn feeds everyone soooooo well . Next is the Millicent school, if I can't get to this one I'll do the one in November, am I herding tragic . Hi Dova, I was wondering how you'd got on. I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. No you're not herding tragic just addicted (I'm sure you were warned.) It will be good to have some time to practise and then go back to another school to see how you've developed. Don't worry about what anyone thinks of your chosen breed. While I haven't seen a Koolie/Coolie with as much instinct as working bred Kelpies and BCs, I've seen plenty of homes where because of their (mostly) calmer temperament and less drive they can be very suitable. If you had a large property and had to work thousands of sheep I'd be telling you to get a Kelpie, but if your dog is mainly a pet and herding is your hobby rather than your occupation, Izzi will suit you fine. I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with her. I realized a long time ago that if I want lots of success in sheep dog trialling, I would have to be prepared to buy and sell lots of dogs, but because once a dog has become part of my family I'll never get rid of it, I'm content to work on improving my skills and making my dogs better and enjoying any success that I may achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't need a really strong dog all I'm doing is herding trials for fun & Izzi & Pebbles are my best friends, I wasn't worried about the comment Ben made I respect his oppinion. Nooooooo I'm not addicted, just because I break out in sweat every time I see a trial coming up doesn't mean a thing & I'm only looking forward to my instructor coming home, the next trial & the next school just a teensy weensy bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't need a really strong dog all I'm doing is herding trials for fun & Izzi & Pebbles are my best friends, I wasn't worried about the comment Ben made I respect his oppinion. Nooooooo I'm not addicted, just because I break out in sweat every time I see a trial coming up doesn't mean a thing & I'm only looking forward to my instructor coming home, the next trial & the next school just a teensy weensy bit . Hey DOva, Glad you enjoyed it. How did they cope having an Aussie there? I was more curious their reaction to Pebbles than to Izzi. I was going to find uot about costs to get them down for a clinic but wasn't sure what they would say to some of the less traditional breeds that we have coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Lol Piper I am often the token Border at the clinics that I go to! Lots of different breeds of dogs. It is very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Lol Piper I am often the token Border at the clinics that I go to! Lots of different breeds of dogs. It is very interesting. Yes our last trial I think there was 1 border besides my 2. Otherwise it was mostly Aussies and GSDs. We even had a Giant Schnauzer entered in HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 The Samoyeds totally freak Poppy out! White fluffy dogs chasing sheepies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Hey DOva,Glad you enjoyed it. How did they cope having an Aussie there? I was more curious their reaction to Pebbles than to Izzi. I was going to find uot about costs to get them down for a clinic but wasn't sure what they would say to some of the less traditional breeds that we have coming out. When I took Pebbles out I heard him say I better pay attention & I was about half way through my turn so I wasn't game to ask & only took her out once more after that. You could contact Pages about doing a clinic, just going on what was said over the weekend, so it's just my oppinion, don't think anything other than Kelpies & Border Collies would be smiled uppon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 Clinic today. Poppy is going through the obstacles quite well and penning is good. Just having some issues with casting. If the sheep are in the open it works quite well but if they are near the fence she is holding them on the fence rather than bringing them to me. She is also not happy about working at a distance to me. Got to remember she has only had 5 clinics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Glad to hear everyone is enjoying their clinics. I would love to do another with God :rolleyes: but haven't managed to get to his place. Though he did give me some good advice on the intermediate cross drive today after our trial run Well we had a mixed day trialling today. Did started B as we still haven't fixed the top of the cast. Llost a few on the cast, outrun and fetch as the judge was standing right behind the start peg and the sheep drew to the judge and scribe rather tham me. I should have sent him round to block them earlier but got them back and lost none to the pen. Penned them cleanly and as I was shutting the gate one sheep ducked round the side. Reoenned and the same sheep ducked out again so shut the pen on 4. No points lost to the shed ring. He still scorded 86 so can't complain. In inter A we had problems with the drive from C to the Y shute and the the silly handler did not think that the draw for the sheep would be from the Y shute to marker 3 as that was near where the are penned now. We lost the sheep so I left the handlers zone to help him DQing myself) and then resumed from the z shute and did a nice round from there - cross drive was a bit untidy. I was pleased with his run.4 Then we had the best afternoon being the stock handling dog for the tests and doing "real" work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Clinic today. Poppy is going through the obstacles quite well and penning is good. Just having some issues with casting. If the sheep are in the open it works quite well but if they are near the fence she is holding them on the fence rather than bringing them to me. She is also not happy about working at a distance to me. Got to remember she has only had 5 clinics! With started A you can stand anywhere on the centre line between the A (nearest the sheep) and the B (where the dog has to start from). When starting I would send her with you standing near the A cone so you are in a position to send her wider and help her with the lift. You shouldn't have to be that far from the dog and sheep at any point in started. If the sheep are at the fence (and they shouldn't be in a trial) stop her before she reaches the sheep the recommand her to got quietly between them and the fence. You can also practice going quietly between the sheep and the fence anywhere on the fenceline in training. The best turn at 4 for the crossdrive happens when you can get the dog to go quietly between the fence and the sheep and stop at about 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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