chepet Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) I know I have posted about Ralph ( cairn terrier ) & his allergies before , but now he has a new development ,I wash him in EPO vet grade shampoo , which was good for the first few washes ,( he had a course of cortisone early March gave him relief for a few weeks ) Anyway I washed him yesterday & I was blowdrying him as per EPO instructions , & I noticed 2 bald spots 1 about the size of a 20 cent piece & the other about 10 cents , the 20 cent one looks bruised , when he sits on my husbands lap , he will sort of scratch him , do you guys think that would cause this ??? He also had a couple of areas of broken skin & is back to scratching madly & licking his paws despite being on phenergan morning & night , I bought some Malaseb yesterday, I am going to bath him again this afternoon to see if it will give him some relief , what do you guys think ? or do you have any other ideas for me ? please Ralph would be soooo grateful & what do you think about those bald /bruise spots ? my vet already thinks I'm a fussy old woman , running in all the time for every little thing but he's my baby , thanks guys Edited March 28, 2009 by chepet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Do you know what he's allergic too ? Sounds like hot spots from what you are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Got photos? Could be hotspots..or ringworm... or ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 My vet already thinks I'm a fussy old woman , running in all the time for every little thing but he's my baby , thanks guys Sounds like hot spots to me - perhaps ask to get a referral to a dermatologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I notice from your previous posts that you started feeding a BARF diet. Are you still feeding it and is it improving anything? I have just found out that Vets All Natural have a new Skin & Coat Formula which includes Probiotics, Antioxidants and Immune Modulating Herbs. You can read about their products both wet & dry on their website - www.vetsallnatural.net I have been fine tuning their foods to suit one of my dogs that has colitis and came across this new product. They suggest that you add only one meat source - either kangaroo, rabbit or tripe. If your dog is still having problems with BARF perhaps it has the same difficulty as mine girl who cannot cope with having bones or fat in her diet, which is what I was feeding her previously and which BARF certainly contains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akay Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I notice from your previous posts that you started feeding a BARF diet.Are you still feeding it and is it improving anything? I have just found out that Vets All Natural have a new Skin & Coat Formula which includes Probiotics, Antioxidants and Immune Modulating Herbs. You can read about their products both wet & dry on their website - www.vetsallnatural.net I have been fine tuning their foods to suit one of my dogs that has colitis and came across this new product. They suggest that you add only one meat source - either kangaroo, rabbit or tripe. If your dog is still having problems with BARF perhaps it has the same difficulty as mine girl who cannot cope with having bones or fat in her diet, which is what I was feeding her previously and which BARF certainly contains. Hi there, How you get to the point of knowing that bones and fat are causing the problems? Did you go through a process of elimination of sorts? My dog has allergies as well and I have no idea of what could be causing them :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 hi & thanks for your input , I don't think it's hotspots , the areas are dry - not moist & are not irritating him & they appear bruised looking -- which I am quite worried about , he has 1 area on his chest that is about the size of 10 cents that looks like an eczema type lesion I have bathed him in the Malaseb , so now I'll give him the weekend to see what happens as for the Barf diet , we gave that up after constant vomiting for several weeks , he now has purina pro plan sensitive skin & stomach & he has stopped the vomiting & I occasionally make up my own barf the vet & I think his allergies are seasonal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Akay, In my experience skin conditions can be a result of an immune system that is not functioning properly and/or they can be a bacterial infection. My Dobe boy is just getting over a bacterial infection which was initially caused by his skin immune system not being able to cope with the pollen etc. in the environment irritating him (allergy) and eventually a secondary bacterial infection set in. His has been on cortizone tablets (allergy) and also antibiotics (infection) for a week now and he is a lot better. His allergies are also evident in his diet. He can be allergic to things like artificial colourings, flavourings or preservatives in some prepared dogfoods. This was found to be so by means of an elimination diet. So raw all natural diets are considered the best, not only for allergic dogs but for all dogs for obvious reasons. My older girl has been battling with colitis on and off for a while now. It is known that fat in the diet can cause colitis, and bones have a lot of fat in them ie. marrow. In the short term, I have fed her Eukanuba Low Residue diet but I didn't want to continue that forever as it makes her very thirsty. I came across the Vets All Natural Skin & Coat mix when I was looking for something I could feed to my girl and it so happens that it is also good for colitis as it has a probiotic in it, etc. VAN recommend that you use only one meat in this case, so I will feed kangaroo and see how she goes. If you have queries about VAN you can email them and they will help you with the best diet for your dog. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 I bathed him in the Malaseb & the rough spot on his chest looks much better already , the " bruise " areas are on both of his sides , I tried to download a photo but my file was too big & I don't know how to make it smaller ---- HELP !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Malaseb is very good for skin problems. Vet recommendation is to bathe dog twice a week in it. I would suggest though that you try to take him to see a doggy skin specialist if your dog has a persistant skin problem. Did the vet take a scraping of the affected area and view it under the microscope to see if excessive bacteria were present? I know that you said that you had problems with BARF and so went back to feeding a dry dog food however it is a fact that many dogs with skin problems do get either partial or complete relief if they are fed on a raw all natural diet. I would also suggest that you at least have a look at the Vets All Natural website. My dogs never had any problems with sickness or 'detox' when I switched them over to VAN several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) I know what spots you are referring to, my dog gets them from time to time, the Vet refers to them as a type of Staph infection. Our areas have always been dry and the skin just tends to flake away and it leaves a slightly bald spot with skin dicolouration. Our boy is currently on anti-biotics. Have you had the opportunity to get a Blood allergy test yet? Edited March 27, 2009 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 I know what spots you are referring to, my dog gets them from time to time, the Vet refers to them as a type of Staph infection. Our areas have always been dry and the skin just tends to flake away and it leaves a slightly bald spot with skin dicolouration. Our boy is currently on anti-biotics.Have you had the opportunity to get a Blood allergy test yet? Thanks , that makes me feel better , I was thinking leukaemia ( I'm a bit of a panicker ) we're off to see Michael (the vet ) monday , does Malaseb help these spots ? I'm still trying to download a photo ,my husband will have another go when he gets home tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akay Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Akay, In my experience skin conditions can be a result of an immune system that is not functioning properly and/or they can be a bacterial infection.My Dobe boy is just getting over a bacterial infection which was initially caused by his skin immune system not being able to cope with the pollen etc. in the environment irritating him (allergy) and eventually a secondary bacterial infection set in. His has been on cortizone tablets (allergy) and also antibiotics (infection) for a week now and he is a lot better. His allergies are also evident in his diet. He can be allergic to things like artificial colourings, flavourings or preservatives in some prepared dogfoods. This was found to be so by means of an elimination diet. So raw all natural diets are considered the best, not only for allergic dogs but for all dogs for obvious reasons. My older girl has been battling with colitis on and off for a while now. It is known that fat in the diet can cause colitis, and bones have a lot of fat in them ie. marrow. In the short term, I have fed her Eukanuba Low Residue diet but I didn't want to continue that forever as it makes her very thirsty. I came across the Vets All Natural Skin & Coat mix when I was looking for something I could feed to my girl and it so happens that it is also good for colitis as it has a probiotic in it, etc. VAN recommend that you use only one meat in this case, so I will feed kangaroo and see how she goes. If you have queries about VAN you can email them and they will help you with the best diet for your dog. Hope this helps! Thank you very much for this information. I've been to a vet with my dog and it is a bacterial problem and he's been on the steroids and antibiotics before and it just seems now that he seems to have a consistent skin allergy rather than a seasonal one, which got me thinking it could be a food problem.. I actually feed VAN and noticed that they have oats in the food and I was wondering whether my dog could have an allergy to that because I remember when I used aloveen oatmeal shampoo on his skin it made him very, very itchy. I think someone above said that this summer in brisbane has been really bad so maybe it just seems like a constant allergy because it has been a long summer :-( I just seem to be washing him in melaseb all the time and I would like to give him a break from it as someone told me it was harsh on the coat. I think that a trip to a skin specialist might be in order as he has scabs all over his body. I was thinking I might do a food elimination diet as well just in case it is food related. I'll feed him on a meet he's never had and put some potato with it and then see if that makes a diffference. Then I'll start adding stuff. His allergy seemed to coincide with moving to a new house and a change to the VAN, so that confuses the situation even further as to whether it's environmental or food related. Thanks for your advice :-) Edited March 28, 2009 by Akay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) I know what spots you are referring to, my dog gets them from time to time, the Vet refers to them as a type of Staph infection. Our areas have always been dry and the skin just tends to flake away and it leaves a slightly bald spot with skin dicolouration. Our boy is currently on anti-biotics.Have you had the opportunity to get a Blood allergy test yet? Thanks , that makes me feel better , I was thinking leukaemia ( I'm a bit of a panicker ) we're off to see Michael (the vet ) monday , does Malaseb help these spots ? I'm still trying to download a photo ,my husband will have another go when he gets home tonight Oh dear @ leukaemia! I hope it's just a basic Staph infection, let us know what the Vet says? Yep, Malaseb can assist the Staph Infection, just use on the infected areas as it's a pretty harsh shampoo. I see you mentioned Aloveen, a number of dogs are allergic to oats so that is something that you may like to look into. Edited March 28, 2009 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMum Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Hi, we have a boy with skin issues as well. It can be difficult to find what is causing the problem and food intolerance and environmental allergies can go together. Our vet did all he could for our itchy scratchy boy, but advised us to see a specialist for testing. We have been taking TD to a dermatologist in Springwood and we have had helpful results so far. When the allergy season is over we will be doing desensitisation treatment for TD. The dermatologist agrees with my observations that this summer has been bad for allergies in Brisbane. Based on what we have been advised by the specialist, we use Aloveen shampoo and conditioner, it seems pretty gentle. For the areas he scratches and causes scabbing, we use Pyohex conditioner. We also have a different conditioner to use on his legs for his contact allergies. His toiletries bag is bigger than mine . Good luck with the vet's visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Chepet the photo looks like the area is bruised. Can your dog bite or scratch that area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 I know what spots you are referring to, my dog gets them from time to time, the Vet refers to them as a type of Staph infection. Our areas have always been dry and the skin just tends to flake away and it leaves a slightly bald spot with skin dicolouration. Our boy is currently on anti-biotics.Have you had the opportunity to get a Blood allergy test yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well, we went to the vet yesterday , Ralph is on antibiotics, he threw up the 1st pill ,1/2 digested , but kept last nights down so we'll see how he goes this morning ,he usually has 1 phenergan morning & night , this has been increased to 3 times a day he took some scrapings to check for yeast (he hasn't rung me back yet ) , he didn't think it was worth doing blood tests yet as it was pretty obvious I downloaded some info on yeast & as I was reading I was mentally ticking off -- face rubbing ' feet licking' rash on belly ' redness in ears' chewing near tail ' yeasty? odour' there are a few others on the list that he does not have but he has more than he has not I have been giving him flaxseed oil & according to this site it says not to ,I think I'll start a new thread about feeding yeasty dogs !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Vet just rang me with the results from the skin scrapings --- it's bacterial == I was so sure it was yeast = see my other post !! no wonder I'm not a vet just an over protective Mum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMum Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Vet just rang me with the results from the skin scrapings --- it's bacterial == I was so sure it was yeast = see my other post !! no wonder I'm not a vet just an over protective Mum Who else is going to be overprotective if Mum's aren't? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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