JulesP Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Great Barko kibble is pretty big. It is the only kibble that my piggies don't choke on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Umm not sure why it has to be kibble exactly lp - but you could get a 1kg bag of Euk/Iam Response Fish & Potato (known as f&p) for the vet, only thing is that it does contain beet pulp Potato, Herring Meal (source of Fish Oil), Catfish, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp, Fish Digest, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate [source of Vitamin B1], Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement [source of Vitamin B2], Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride [source of Vitamin B6], Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Ethoxyquin (a preservative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 OK reason I want kibble is because I want the dogs to work for their food, and their diet is made up of raw and kibble The other reason being that a particular type of training we are doing means that I want containers of food around the house that doesn't need to be refridgerated or doesn't go stale within hours (covered containers).... hence the kibble again It's just an easy access food that I want to be tasty. Their normal food (artemis) is pretty small pieces so if I use it outside (decking) it falls through the slats, which isnt' fair on the poor kids Thanks - I hear the response euk is pretty good. Might try RC too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Ok makes more sense now - f&p is about the size of a 10cent piece thus one is perfect for a good crunchy treat or a couple for a jackpot! Nice and big and I gather still pretty tasty from Benson's reaction to it on the food trial! Edited February 11, 2009 by First Time Puppy Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Haha = well if it passes the Benson test, I'm sure it will pass the L & K Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah L Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Lp if you you both raw and dry food in their diet then what about frozen chunker's some time and kibble that's big enough not to go through your deck slats at others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hmm Leopuppy - the best training treats are ones the dogs don't have to.... CHEW and CHEW and CHEW while you .... wait and wait and wait to move on. Have you given this any thought? I understand why you want to use dry - its just that depending on what you are training BIG bickies may not be the best. Hmm nothing is ever easy - is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) haha Ptolomy - I'm only thinking Advance size pieces, so they certainly arent' sitting there chewing for ages - they are great training treat sizes coz it goes down nice and quick! I'm just seeing what other brands are available, but am looking for something bigger than... say.... Eagle pack pinnacle - trust me they have a wide variety of treats for training... more than enough... but I'm specifically looking for good sized kibble that I can use for containers around the house I'm liking the idea of the Euk and RC Edited February 11, 2009 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Advance kibble gets sucked up by my 2 when it's dry, not even sure they crunch it half the time! Hence why I used to soak it for them so they wouldn't choke (but now they get fed raw). One of my girls works for lettuce But that isn't so easy to throw I've got some Advance kibble leftover, you've just given me the idea to start using some of it for training instead of letting it go to waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) That is unless your Kenzie and feel the urge to chew your kibble a zillion times before finally consuming it and they are just the tiny eagle pack kibble . I only hazard to think how long it would take her on a bit of advance . Edited February 11, 2009 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Next question I guess is ........ Do you notice a difference in your kids effort depending on what food you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) rofl - well given chicken necks hardly get chewed over here, I'm pretty sure I'm safe with a RC sized kibble.... I just don't like the stuff I'm currently using as training kibble and am trying to find something of better quality. Again - when we do other bits of training, they are getting a whole variety of healthy treats... the kibble is specifically for our containers around the house and the training we do around that.... Me keeping some chunkers in those containers for a week probably isn't going to taste as nice on the Friday as it did on the Sunday Whereas with Kibble, it will. ETA - well they are gutsy but yes, I do notice a difference. This is only for a specific type of training, NOT for anything new or difficult. They still burst their guts out to work for dry food, but I want the kibble for mucking about training..... I'm not exactly using the dry food for say... teaching my article training etc. Edited February 11, 2009 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Again - when we do other bits of training, they are getting a whole variety of healthy treats... the kibble is specifically for our containers around the house and the training we do around that.... Me keeping some chunkers in those containers for a week probably isn't going to taste as nice on the Friday as it did on the Sunday Whereas with Kibble, it will. OK so now the truth comes out - you are too lazy to put the containers back in the fridge after a training session and too diorganised to plan to get them out before you start....... Now i've got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) no - I'm more using this for manners training - not for a specific 'planned' training session for obedience ETA - we are working through something at the moment, and the easiest thing is to have easy access food - not food where I go to the fridge, get it out THEN reward the dog. Edited February 11, 2009 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 ....I am waiting for Rubystar to jump in here and tell us what she learnt at the Guru seminar about training and what is the first thing you do........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 ....I am waiting for Rubystar to jump in here and tell us what she learnt at the Guru seminar about training and what is the first thing you do........ Ummmm... who is shining that torch in my eyes? Well my notes are at home but something about make sure you have your treats and all training gear ready before your dog comes out for training so it's not left standing around, and don't let the dog see you get treats ready. What score do I get out of 10 for my pop quiz, Ptolomy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Actually, the FIRST thing you want to do is know what you want to teach and what your criteria/expected outcome is... I think... But as that doesn't tie in with this topic, I'm hoping my first answer was more on track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah L Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ah now I get it and I wasn't even there :mad but wish I had of been I do feed euk and I am happy to do this, Fyx has a glossy shinny coat and is in good health. Not sure if I would use it as a treat though. I would just reduce the main meals to compensate for what treat I did use. Hope that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Sorry but there seems to be a little confusion here. LP is a guru when it comes to variety of dog treats for training so she is not asking for any recommendation of dog treats good for training. She is asking for something specific. Imagine a situation: you are training your dog good manners while outside. Let's say for the dog to lie on their bed outside during the day. You need treats easily available, that you can have around the house as the training will be ongoing during the day. You will be treating every time during the day for good behavior. So you don't want any raw meats lying around, that's why she is asking for dry food. She needs something big enough that she can throw in the garden and the dog will find it straight away (not sniff the grass for 5min forgetting why they got rewarded in the first place So she is asking: what are big enough dry foods to accomplish this task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) LP - have you tried the natural Eagle Pack treats? They are a bit big - but I break them up and find them really handy to just have in my pocket at the beach.... ETA: Maybe too high in calories for what you are after though. Edited February 11, 2009 by The Spotted Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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