vnv Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 My dog was feeling a bit sick in the tummy so I took her to the vet who gave anitbiotics and told me to feed her nothing but cooked chicken (meat only) and white rice for the 10 days. Normally she is a bit of a picky eater, sometimes she loves something then the next time she wont eat it. She has thrived on the chicken and rice mix, warmed up or cold she has wolfed it down every time. She seems to have gained a bit of weight too, which is great because she has been a bit bony ever since I got her from the pound. He coat seems softer, eyes brighter. I doubt chicken and rice is 100% nutritionally complete for a dog, but is it okay to feed it to her as her main diet, say 80%. If so, what should I supplement for the other 20% to give her other nutrients? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJB Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 She wouldn't be getting much of a mouth workout with just chicken and rice. And before long, her teeth would be terrible I'd imagine. I've recently had an issue with my dog becoming picky food wise, and some DOLers gave me very good suggestions, which I've tried over the last 2 days and they've worked great. Sardines. Mix a couple in with good quality kibble (if you give kibble). I did this and Heidi couldn't wait for me to put the bowl down. Today I tried about 2 ice cubes of steamed pumpkin with her kibble, and a dollop of cottage cheese. Loved it. Tomorrow, I'll be trying egg & mince with her kibble, and I'm just going to keep her diet as varied as I can. You may also like to try chicken carcass. Most dogs love these, and they can be given frozen. Lots of people use chicken necks or turkey necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaz Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) My Vet usually says feed chicken and rice until they seem better, which is usually a couple of days. I am not an expert, but I think chicken and rice would have next to no nutritional value. Personally I only feed chicken and rice when required, I would not make it part of their regular diet, even though my girls love it as well. I have noticed some trainers offer chicken as a special training treat, regular feeding may negate the effect during training, if you were to get professional training. Edit: We had trouble feeding kibble, they wouldn't eat any of the top brands, we ended up going barf for dinner and Great Barko for breakfast, we buy our barf mixture from Pet Love in Coburg, works out a lot cheaper than chicken and they love it. Edited January 29, 2009 by BigDaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravyk Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 maybe try feeding the chicken raw as well-there are more nutrients in raw meat than cooked meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 How old is the dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnv Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 She is about 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 she would put weight on eating maccas too! cooked chicken and rice, while useful for sensitive stomachs/invalids- is not a dog food, really! Your dog would probably benefit more from a higher proportion of red meat/bones/ a selection of fatty meat cuts to keep her weight up ....UNLESS she has ongoing health problems . Chicken can be fed- raw... as can fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 She is about 18 months. Too young for such a limited diet. If she was 16 and crumbly I'd say feed her whatever she wants but just chicken and rice is not balanced. You could feed it for some meals and look at a good nutritional supplement but I would be encouraging a more varied and balanced diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnv Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Fair enough. I'll start transitioning her back to her usual diet while I use up the rest of my last batch of the chicken and rice mix. Thanks for your input everyone, I didnt realise there isn't much nutrition in cooked chicken for a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravyk Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. what puggy is saying is why do vets keep telling people to feed rice in the dogs normal diet. dogs digestive system cant break down the cellulose [cell walls] in plant material rice is good for unsettled stomachs but shouldnt really be fed in regular amounts as part of a healthy dogs normal diet Edited January 30, 2009 by Ravyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. Sorry not talking about the chicken I am talking about the rice. Maybe do a little research into what grains can do to dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnv Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 She was sick that's why the vet recommended chicken and rice, as the vet said "to help push the nasty stuff out". She was doing black sloppy poo's. My vet didn't recommend it as a normal diet, I just thought my dog likes it and seems to be thriving, but I guess 10 days isn't long enough to tell, maybe she is just looking better compared to when she was sick. Before this, she was on a mostly raw diet, chicken necks/wings/frames, raw puppy mince, lamp off-cuts and other bones when I could get them but she would have kibble in her treat ball in the morning to play with throughout the day. The only problem with that was if I bought a kilo of chicken necks she would wolf them down for the first meal, then not touch them the next day so the rest would go off. Same with lamb off cuts or mince. Now that I have a foster boy here though that isn't as much of a problem as the food gets used up twice as fast. Anyway thanks everyone for the info, I will stop feeding her cooked chicken and rice now that I know it's not a good long-term diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. Sorry not talking about the chicken I am talking about the rice. Maybe do a little research into what grains can do to dogs. I do not have to research anything , I am trying to explain that SICK dogs need a very bland diet and Chicken and rice is bland and proven to be easy on a SICK dogs stomach. There is time to push the barf, prey model whatever diet onto people and isn't when they have a dog shitting through the eye of an needle with gastro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. what puggy is saying is why do vets keep telling people to feed rice in the dogs normal diet. dogs digestive system cant break down the cellulose [cell walls] in plant material rice is good for unsettled stomachs but shouldnt really be fed in regular amounts as part of a healthy dogs normal diet We are discussing the SICK dog diet are we not. The OP was advised to use it for her SICK dog. Lets start another Vet bashing thread. Who said here that Vets pushed it as the dogs regular diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mum to Emma Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 (edited) We are discussing the SICK dog diet are we not. The OP was advised to use it for her SICK dog. Lets start another Vet bashing thread. Who said here that Vets pushed it as the dogs regular diet? And how about a "Food Nazi" thread? Dogs - like people - aren't scientific instruments which require X amount of vitamins minerals to function. There are plenty of dogs out there who live long and healthy (and happy!) lives on a diet of PAL or of table scraps. Not everyone can afford super premium food nor have the time or inclination to prepare a barf diet. Do what's right for YOU and YOUR DOG. Edited January 30, 2009 by Mum to Emma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 is it okay to feed it to her as her main diet, say 80%. If so, what should I supplement for the other 20% to give her other nutrients? Chicken and rice on it's own would not provide necessary fats, vitamins and minerals. Adding these things may make the food unpalatable and defeat the purpose of finding a diet your dog actually likes. Petark has a liver flavoured supplement which I am trying and dogs like it, or you could try Greenpet or Missing Link, as well as an oil supplement. Suggest you try to include RMB's in the dog's normal diet as the benefits are enormous. Dogs - like people - aren't scientific instruments which require X amount of vitamins minerals to function. Dogs are NOT scientific instruments but they DO need a balanced diet including viatmins and minerals to function and be healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdogs Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 On other dog forums with a large American membership, they advise ppl to give their dogs plain, tinned pumpkin for gastro, something I have never seen in Aust. Seems to do wonders for dogs with gastro & constipation. As everyone has said cooked chicken & rice isn't a good long term diet. Rmb have all the enzymes a dog needs which are distroyed through cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Chicken & rice as a normal diet is a terrible diet. Why oh why do vets keep telling people to feed rice? I suppose the same reason why they promote their dry food as the only way. Dogs need bone as well as meat. Rice as well as many other grains can cause skin poblems and is of no nutritional use to a dog. Have you looked into feeding a BARF or RAW diet? Chicken necks, sardines, kangaroo, meaty bones, pulped veggies & fruit etc Chicken and rice is bland and easy on unsettled tummies. Would you rather they advise clients with dogs that need a bland diet till they recover that they feed them PAL. Sorry not talking about the chicken I am talking about the rice. Maybe do a little research into what grains can do to dogs. I do not have to research anything , I am trying to explain that SICK dogs need a very bland diet and Chicken and rice is bland and proven to be easy on a SICK dogs stomach. There is time to push the barf, prey model whatever diet onto people and isn't when they have a dog shitting through the eye of an needle with gastro. If you read the OP again it is asked if it is ok to feed Chicken & Rice as the main percentage of a normal diet. Anyways moving along now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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