chepet Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I've started my cairn , Ralph , on the Barf diet about a week ago , I add vegies to it as he loves his vegies , & I feed him of an evening , but since I started it most mornings he eats grass & vomits could this be a reaction to the Barf do you think ? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The key to remember is BARF isnt for every dog. yes it could be an issue because not all dogs can tolerate meat & certain kinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) I guess it depends what you are feeding? he may not be able to tolerate the dairy.. or the fish, or the oil, or a certain type of offal... or maybe there is too much of a type of veggie? veggies should only be a TINY part of the diet.. as dog's stomachs are primarily made to digest bones/meat Then again... he may just be feeling some discomfort.. his tummy may be 'rumbling' with the changeover in food... it is the grass which makes them vomit.. it may not actually be the food. did you gradually introduce the new food?A gradual introduction gives the stomach and system time to adjust... You might also want to try feeding him the same amount, but divided into morning and night feeds... see how that goes ... Edited January 18, 2009 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Your post isnt specific enough to know.......what are you feeding? If it is a commercial "Barf" product what is in it? probably already has vegetables in it....Dogs are carnivores & are designed to eat raw meat, offal & bones, vegetables are not necessary, and some are harmful. Dogs raised on commercial products have to detox somehow, which is either diarrohea or vomiting, all the junk has to be eliminated somehow.......Also it may be coincidental he is vomiting, might have nothing to do with food at all....... When peopel ask me how ot switch, I usually recommend nothing but chicken necks initially & introduce 1 new item every so many days.....It will take most dogs a month or more to detox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andisa Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Your post isnt specific enough to know.......what are you feeding? If it is a commercial "Barf" product what is in it? probably already has vegetables in it....Dogs are carnivores & are designed to eat raw meat, offal & bones, vegetables are not necessary, and some are harmful.Dogs raised on commercial products have to detox somehow, which is either diarrohea or vomiting, all the junk has to be eliminated somehow.......Also it may be coincidental he is vomiting, might have nothing to do with food at all....... When peopel ask me how ot switch, I usually recommend nothing but chicken necks initially & introduce 1 new item every so many days.....It will take most dogs a month or more to detox. This is what I was going to say too. 2 yrs ago I helped a client change their elderly nasty little Maltese x over to a raw natural diet including Barf. At first he went through a shocking stage, I was so worried that I rang another raw feeder, she reminded me of the "Detox" stage. Well that poor little bugger had to Detox a life time of crap out of his system, he suffered badly, almost to the point of me suggesting to go back to his normal diet. It took a good month or so before the poor boy saw the light and did it shine bright for him. He was no longer a nasty little turd, but also was able to grow a nice thick coat, something that in the 5 yrs that I groomed him - I had not seen, even his owners couldn't remember him ever having such a nice coat and he lost his stinky dog smell due to his shocking skin condition - that was cleared up too. The people who make Phuds also have a detox product that can be added to their food, this is what I would suggest to anyone having a hard time with dogs detoxing during the change over period. Good luck with your dog, hope your not too frightened to continue with the change over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter? My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's not uncommon for dogs to throw up any bone pieces they can't digest too... Do you feed breakfast? Is the dog vomiting on an empty stomach? Or is it after a meal? What is in the vomit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 lots of good advice above. May also be worth noting that puking for a dog isn't the same as puking for a human. Some are natural regurgitators . . . some bitches puke up food for their pups . . . if energy levels and other signs of health are ok, I wouldn't worry about a little vomit. It may just be part of a digestive system learning to deal with new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter?My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. I cook some diced carrots & either peas ,beans or brocolli in the microwave for a few minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's not uncommon for dogs to throw up any bone pieces they can't digest too...Do you feed breakfast? Is the dog vomiting on an empty stomach? Or is it after a meal? What is in the vomit? He's never eaten breakfast even when he was a puppy ,up until I started the Barf I would leave dry food all day just in case -- he never touches it -- he vomits of a morning after eating grass & there is just grass & bile in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter?My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. I cook some diced carrots & either peas ,beans or brocolli in the microwave for a few minutes How about raw meaty bones and meet, what are you feeding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I guess it depends what you are feeding?he may not be able to tolerate the dairy.. or the fish, or the oil, or a certain type of offal... or maybe there is too much of a type of veggie? veggies should only be a TINY part of the diet.. as dog's stomachs are primarily made to digest bones/meat Then again... he may just be feeling some discomfort.. his tummy may be 'rumbling' with the changeover in food... it is the grass which makes them vomit.. it may not actually be the food. did you gradually introduce the new food?A gradual introduction gives the stomach and system time to adjust... You might also want to try feeding him the same amount, but divided into morning and night feeds... see how that goes ... OOPS --- I may have jumped into the diet too quick I gave him the barf straight off ( with his vegies ) So now I'm mixing the barf half & half with his normal food & gradually increasing the barf ,I started this last night & I don't think he vomited today , if he did it was outside on the grass somewhere where I haven't seen it , He has about 20% vegies in his diet as per vet suggestion as he is a bit overweight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter?My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. I cook some diced carrots & either peas ,beans or brocolli in the microwave for a few minutes How about raw meaty bones and meet, what are you feeding? before I started switching to the barf diet I was feeding him supercoat dry & my dog can & vegies he will not touch bones --- I know strange dog , which is one of the reasons I want him on the barf barf diet as it has bones in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter?My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. I cook some diced carrots & either peas ,beans or brocolli in the microwave for a few minutes How about raw meaty bones and meet, what are you feeding? before I started switching to the barf diet I was feeding him supercoat dry & my dog can & vegies he will not touch bones --- I know strange dog , which is one of the reasons I want him on the barf barf diet as it has bones in it what meat/bones are you feeding? they could be too rich or too fatty (like marrow bones or lamb flaps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 How are you feeding vegetable matter?My kelpie vomits if I feed grated raw vegetables but is perfectly happy with vegetable juice & a small amount of carrot pulp mixed with his roo mince. I cook some diced carrots & either peas ,beans or brocolli in the microwave for a few minutes To my mind a BARF diet consisits of raw foods & not cooked Have you tried juicing raw vegetables? I think the problem may lie with the inability to easily digest the vegetable matter in the diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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