PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) As the post suggests this is asking why we have to quarantine any dogs/cats etc when they come into Oz. Now I do know the reason but am asking as the dogs are in pens/runs that only have wire between them and other dogs, if I was paying to import I certainly wouldnt want another dog being able to sniff, lick sneeze etc all over my animal when ahving to pay what you do for them to stay in quarantine? I genuinely dont know why they make you do this when this is the situation, can anyone shed any light on it for me please? Edited to change subject line to what I intially meant :-) Edited January 18, 2009 by PooMother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 An excellent question and one which I thought of during the EI outbreak with the horses, especially with where the Sydney one is positioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Well for starters the fee is cheaper than many boarding kennels :rolleyes: quarantine isnt about being in padded room with no air or light. The only communal disease they could get is canine cough ,other than that the only other time they are to lick is the outside yards. When our dog was in it was bricks so high & double fencing. When it comes to other species wll the facilities would suit the risk of how disease is spread . With EI wasnt it simply poor human cleansing? not the facilities Edited January 18, 2009 by settrlvr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 As the post suggests this is asking why we have to quarantine any dogs/cats etc when they come into Oz. Now I do know the reason but am asking as the dogs are in pens/runs that only have wire between them and other dogs, if I was paying to import I certainly wouldnt want another dog being able to sniff, lick sneeze etc all over my animal when ahving to pay what you do for them to stay in quarantine?I genuinely dont know why they make you do this when this is the situation, can anyone shed any light on it for me please? Because Australia has a fragile ecosystem and we've had enough problems with imported diseases and pests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK but given the dogs can lick each other etc if one of them had something it could be passed on not just KC. Are they not in there in case say for instance one has rabies? Now I know this isnt likley to happen but you import have to quarantine your dog IN CASE it has some underlying health issue not detected but the dog can sniff, lick, sneeze etc over dogs. I guess the thing I am quesrying is why we have to quarantine our imports given they are not really in quarantine, hope that makes sense lol I wondered this also when I looked at importing some cats. Having to pay this money for them to be in quarantine when they in fact are not in quarantine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 As the post suggests this is asking why we have to quarantine any dogs/cats etc when they come into Oz. Now I do know the reason but am asking as the dogs are in pens/runs that only have wire between them and other dogs, if I was paying to import I certainly wouldnt want another dog being able to sniff, lick sneeze etc all over my animal when ahving to pay what you do for them to stay in quarantine?I genuinely dont know why they make you do this when this is the situation, can anyone shed any light on it for me please? Because Australia has a fragile ecosystem and we've had enough problems with imported diseases and pests. Yes this is true the point I was getting at was more on the animal perspective,that you import, quarantine and your animal is at risk from other animals who are sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's quarantine to prevent something escaping into the outside world. If you have complaints about the inside set up from each other, can't help you with that but AQIS probably could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 My thoughts are then that quarantine isnt about your import but about the country and this is fabulous but perhaps more thought should be given to the animals aswell who can have contact of sorts with others. I do know illnesses are passed on in there as I had a friend who imported a cat and the cats in the next area got ill within a day or 2 of arriving and then her imports were ill, airborne etc. But then I suppose as has been said its not about no light etc and the runs are on grass for the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Very complicated. This all came about after seeing a photo of an import in quarantine and another import in the next pen peering through the wire :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's quarantine to prevent something escaping into the outside world. If you have complaints about the inside set up from each other, can't help you with that but AQIS probably could. Perhaps I worded my post incorrectly as it is the animal set up I was querying as far any illness that could be passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) It's quarantine to prevent something escaping into the outside world. If you have complaints about the inside set up from each other, can't help you with that but AQIS probably could. Perhaps I worded my post incorrectly as it is the animal set up I was querying as far any illness that could be passed on. But what illnesses are you referring too?? The photos i presume are the ones in the hsowring & you will see its double fencing.The walls in between with double fencing on top.They would have to have one very long tongue :rolleyes: Edited January 18, 2009 by settrlvr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooMother Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's quarantine to prevent something escaping into the outside world. If you have complaints about the inside set up from each other, can't help you with that but AQIS probably could. Perhaps I worded my post incorrectly as it is the animal set up I was querying as far any illness that could be passed on. But what illnesses are you referring too?? The photos i presume are the ones in the hsowring & you will see its double fencing.The walls in between with double fencing on top.They would have to have one very long tongue :rolleyes: Well I dont know what illnesses can be brought in, it is more a 'what if' anything that may be airborne etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's quarantine to prevent something escaping into the outside world. If you have complaints about the inside set up from each other, can't help you with that but AQIS probably could. Perhaps I worded my post incorrectly as it is the animal set up I was querying as far any illness that could be passed on. But what illnesses are you referring too?? The photos i presume are the ones in the hsowring & you will see its double fencing.The walls in between with double fencing on top.They would have to have one very long tongue :rolleyes: So research air borne diseases & the worse you will find is canine cough which you can get anywhere . Well I dont know what illnesses can be brought in, it is more a 'what if' anything that may be airborne etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Kuntz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 With regards to dogs and cats, they are primarily concerned about things that are not already in Australia, most specifically, rabies. Rabies has to be transmitted by exchange of saliva with body fluids (ie- dog bite) and the system of fences they have prevents this. They are not concerned about things like Kennel Cough, which is already endemic (in Australia). Release of rabies in a completely naive population of mammals with no previous exposure or vaccination would be devastating with huge public risk potential (rabies is universally fatal) as well as economic catastophy. Australia is very lucky to be an island country. We are in a unique position to really protect ourselves from lots of things and I completely support their efforts. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 With regards to dogs and cats, they are primarily concerned about things that are not already in Australia, most specifically, rabies. Rabies has to be transmitted by exchange of saliva with body fluids (ie- dog bite) and the system of fences they have prevents this. They are not concerned about things like Kennel Cough, which is already endemic (in Australia). Release of rabies in a completely naive population of mammals with no previous exposure or vaccination would be devastating with huge public risk potential (rabies is universally fatal) as well as economic catastophy. Australia is very lucky to be an island country. We are in a unique position to really protect ourselves from lots of things and I completely support their efforts.Charles Well stated. I was going to say something similar . . . though I am not clear why, say, a four year old dog who has had rabies vaccine annually still requires a month of quarantine. I grew up in the US. Annual rabies vaccine was required (dogs have to wear rabies tags . . . not ID tags and council registration.). Record keeping is good. I would think that a regime in which breeders do some sort of verifiable annual vaccination might be an adequate substitute for quarantine. might add that other rabies free zones have similar restrictions, eg Hawaii. Also that our rabies free status puts Oz in a position of being able to export without quarantine to many places. I have a worried feeling that the Hansa virus might compromise Oz' position in the quarantine game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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