Tokkie Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) My JRT started to scratch his eye a lot Sunday evening, I could see it was sore. I took him to the vet yesterday and she did use the die and checked the eye out but did not see a scratch on the cornea. They gave me Amacin Eye and Ear Ointment to put in his eye. He was not opening his eye all morning, but later, I did get a look and his eye is going cloudy.... :D, should I keep on using the Amacin or stop? I will take him back to the vet tomorrow but I am stressed now because I know there is some ointment you should not use if the cornea is scratched..... Please help. Edited December 30, 2008 by Tokkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 recently went thru similar with one of my pugs and hers was very cloudy, was the stuff they put in his eye green? to check if he had an ulcer? my girls got worse before it got better, thats not the same ointment we got thou so cant help you with that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 recently went thru similar with one of my pugs and hers was very cloudy, was the stuff they put in his eye green? to check if he had an ulcer? my girls got worse before it got better, thats not the same ointment we got thou so cant help you with that!!! Yes I think it was Fluorescein drops, but it did not show a scratch on his cornea. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 If you think the eye is more painful and going cloudy then I would stop putting the ointment and get the earliest appointment you can in the morning (even if you turn up early and wait). Amacin (and any other steroid containing eye medications) should not go in an eye with a damaged cornea, but it is really important to keep antibiotic cover up. It's appropriate for a sore eye, inflamed eye that is fluoroscein negative but I always warn clients to do as you do, and keep an eye out for any changes. It's possible that further scratching has caused additional damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 If you think the eye is more painful and going cloudy then I would stop putting the ointment and get the earliest appointment you can in the morning (even if you turn up early and wait). Amacin (and any other steroid containing eye medications) should not go in an eye with a damaged cornea, but it is really important to keep antibiotic cover up. It's appropriate for a sore eye, inflamed eye that is fluoroscein negative but I always warn clients to do as you do, and keep an eye out for any changes. It's possible that further scratching has caused additional damage. Thanks Rappie, that's what I thought, I will take him as soon as the vet clinic opens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periannath Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Please take your little dog to an eye specialist ASAP. JRT are a breed that suffer from genetic PLL(primary lens luxation). Unfortunately PLL quite often presents with generic symptoms as simple as a 'sore eye' with or without a discharge.Cloudiness can also indicate the lens has already dropped.I am not trying to scare you but any breed that is susceptible to this disease should see an eye specialist as soon as there is an indication of trouble Time is a critical factor in saving the sight in a luxated eye and it can only be treated by a specialist. I only know of one in SA ,Dr Tony Read Phone 08 8132 0533 If I can help further please PM me. Good luck, I really hope it isn't PLL but you need to be sure one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Please take your little dog to an eye specialist ASAP. JRT are a breed that suffer from genetic PLL(primary lens luxation). Unfortunately PLL quite often presents with generic symptoms as simple as a 'sore eye' with or without a discharge.Cloudiness can also indicate the lens has already dropped.I am not trying to scare you but any breed that is susceptible to this disease should see an eye specialist as soon as there is an indication of troubleTime is a critical factor in saving the sight in a luxated eye and it can only be treated by a specialist. I only know of one in SA ,Dr Tony Read Phone 08 8132 0533 If I can help further please PM me. Good luck, I really hope it isn't PLL but you need to be sure one way or the other. Thanks perainnath, I sitting here already dressed to take him to the vet as soon as they open. Thanks for the number of the specialist, I will ask the vet about PLL and take him to the specialist if necessary. He can't open his eye, I can see it's very sore. I'm so scared he will lose his sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periannath Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 No worries. I have my fingers crossed for you that it is only something minor but I would insist on seeing a specialist . Many general vets do not recognise PLL and I'm not being critical here ,most do not have the equipment and expertise necessary.It sounds as though your vet has done what she can.Many vets are not aware of the breeds that suffer from PLL so treatment goes on for way too long before the dog gets to a specialist. You are obviously very concerned, a trip to the specialist will be money well spent for your peace of mind and the best treatment for your boys poor sore eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Okay, I just came from the vet, I had to leave Ringo there. He has a grass seeds stuck behind his third eyelid, they did look behind his eyelid on Monday but did not see anything, the grass seed went into a gland. I copied this, it easer to explain: Grass seeds become stuck behind the third eyelid of the dog. These seeds possess tiny barbs that tend to hook onto the lining of the eyelid preventing their removal. The consequence is that every time the eyelid is blinked it rubs the seed (or other foreign body) across the cornea acting as an abrasive and preventing the fragile outer layer from ever completely healing. In such cases, no matter how long or diligently you apply medications these ulcers will not heal until the foreign object is removed. They are going to remove it under general anesthesia, I'm just glad that they found the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbomb Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Oh no, Wilna you must have been so so worried about your little guy. ;) Eye things are always so scary, i'm glad the vet was able to find what was wrong even though they had to take a second look. I hope the GA goes ok, that they get the grass seed without hassle and he is back chasing his ball asap. Me and Bomber send hugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thanks Melbomb, I am really worried ;) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Squish Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Good to hear the Vet found the problem & the grass seed will be removed today! Poor little Ringo ;) Hope he feels much better now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periannath Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I am very pleased to hear the problem was found and although it has been a painful thing one that has a quick fix.Grass seeds are horrible and he will be a vastly relieved dog when he wakes up.We get so many grass seeds where I am that I stuff the dogs ears with cotton wool before I take them out in the paddocks. Perhaps dog goggles to keep them out the little fella's eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) His home! ;) It was my first time using the Vet clinic and they are wonderful, I will use them again. It is a small piece of grass seed, I don't know how they saw it the second time, Ringo being a one year old JRT.... not too easy to look under his third eyelid. Thanks periannath, I'm glad it's not PLL, his cornea is scratched, I will take him back on Friday for a checkup to see if it's getting better. Don't know about the goggles, he won't be happy. Thanks MSF, when you come for coffee Ringo will give you some JRT kisses. His sleeping now.... Edited December 31, 2008 by Tokkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Oh great that they found what was wrong. And good on you for making sure he had medical treatment. When it comes to eyes if you leave injuries to long that's when things can go very wrong. If you apply his meds then they should clear up his cornea injury pretty quickly. Bet he is back to his normal crazy self tomorrow and hitting you in the shins with his bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkie Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Bet he is back to his normal crazy self tomorrow and hitting you in the shins with his bucket. He is already running around trying to play with his ball, with both eyes open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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