smisch Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 It kinda makes sense lol! I'm a little slow!! Okay I have a few questions!! 1. Whats the difference between International and Regular programme?? and this one is a long winded one! Neighbours Son wants to give agility a go, but they're dog is still to young so we're working on training but I have offered to let him help train and start trialing with jock in the junior programme. I'll still be trialling jock too at the same time Can someone please break down the two types of junior classes.. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaCharlie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 International program is the one for most dogs. I made the mistake of registering mine as regular and now have to pay to transfer them both over Regular program jumps one size lower and doesnt have a spread jump. It is good for dogs that are aging or physically struggling to get around a course at normal heights. The measuring cutoffs are a little different to ANKC though, although it shouldn't affect Jock as he is only tiny. Delta on the other hand has to jump 650 at ADAA but only 500 at ANKC. If she struggles with it or we start doing alot of ADAA trials (and therefore she has to jump that height regularly) I will switch her back to regular (means next height down which is 550). Charlie just scraped in as a 550 dog thank god. Does that make sense? As for the junior handler, Jock wont be able to run the same course twice. For each event you can either enter him in the junior international program with your neighbour running him, or enter him in the normal international with you running him. I imagine you should be able to switch between yourselves throughout the day though. You might choose to run all the agility courses with him and your neighbour can run the jumping courses (as an example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Thanks Delta I figured you'd be in here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaCharlie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hahaha, Im never too far away mate. You know what this means though- you are going to have to come to the ADAA grand prix with us in Sept. Its a combined QLD and NSW comp held halfway between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 lol I should have my p's by then so i'll try and make an appearance depending on a job and stuff! Jock is flying!! and he's looking forward to getting back in the ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordacollies4me Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 International program is the one for most dogs. I made the mistake of registering mine as regular and now have to pay to transfer them both over Regular program jumps one size lower and doesnt have a spread jump. It is good for dogs that are aging or physically struggling to get around a course at normal heights. The measuring cutoffs are a little different to ANKC though, although it shouldn't affect Jock as he is only tiny. Delta on the other hand has to jump 650 at ADAA but only 500 at ANKC. If she struggles with it or we start doing alot of ADAA trials (and therefore she has to jump that height regularly) I will switch her back to regular (means next height down which is 550). Charlie just scraped in as a 550 dog thank god. Does that make sense? As for the junior handler, Jock wont be able to run the same course twice. For each event you can either enter him in the junior international program with your neighbour running him, or enter him in the normal international with you running him. I imagine you should be able to switch between yourselves throughout the day though. You might choose to run all the agility courses with him and your neighbour can run the jumping courses (as an example). yep the regular program was started for older dogs and dogs who are returning from inhury, there is no spread jump and no tyre either, jumps are all on a lower height.... the SCT is also longer... not sure about Jock not being able to run the same course twice, i am sure that you could run him in the international programme eg.. Open A Agility Test and a Junior run him in the Junior event of that event... have had a look through the regs, can't find it yet... this may give you some more info about the junior programme... taken from the regs which can be viewed from the adaa website... SECTION 6 – JUNIOR PROGRAMME 41. General Information 41.1 Introduction The JP utilises two separate systems of recognition to cater for the two separate and different realms of Agility handling and Agility training. Agility handling skills are more about the Handler’s athletic ability and include the skills of turning on the run, timing and footwork. Agility handling skills are encouraged and nurtured through the Junior Handler Awards (JHA’s). A JHA is awarded to the individual Junior Handler and not the Dog in recognition that, in many cases, the Dog is owned and trained by another member. Agility training skills are about training a Dog to be confident and skilled on each obstacle and to build a bond and connection and develop teamwork between Owner/Handler and Dog. Such skills are encouraged and nurtured through the Junior Handler Owned & Trained (JHOT) Titling system. 41.2 Aims The JP aims to foster Junior participation, good sportsmanship, skill development, Handler confidence and experience in the sport of Dog Agility. It is envisaged that the JP will encourage positive training methods, responsible dog ownership and family involvement. The JP also aims to encourage Juniors to participate in fun, safe outdoor activities. Further, the JP aims to provide young adults who can transition into the IP or RP with fundamental handling and training skills and a good understanding of the sport. 42. Junior Membership and Dog Registration The JP is restricted to Junior members between the age of 10 and 16 (inclusive). There is no separate Dog registration for the JP. Dogs that compete within the JP must be on the IPR or RPR. A Junior Handler that owns and trains their own Dog must choose if they wish to register the Dog on the IPR or RPR. A registered JHOT Competitor is not restricted to competing within the JP and may also compete within the applicable Programme in which the Dog is registered and/or the Combined Programme, subject to their eligibility. Thus, if a Junior wishes to compete with their Dog within both the JP and IP, they should register the Dog on the IPR. Alternatively, if they wish to compete with their Dog within both the JP and RP, they should register the Dog on the RPR. ADAA Agility Regulations - 71 - Document Number: POL-AR-001/12 1 April 2008 42.1 Junior Handler Owned and Trained (JHOT) The aim of the JHOT Titling System is to encourage Junior Handlers to own, train, achieve a relationship and compete with their own Dog. Therefore, it is expected that in order to be eligible to become a registered JHOT Competitor, the Dog will be exclusively trained by the Junior and will compete (in any of the Programmes) more than 90% of the time with the Junior in whose name the Dog is registered. That is, if more than 10% of the time the Dog is handled by Adults or other Juniors, then the Dog will not be entitled to be issued JHOT Certificates that may be used towards JHOT Titles. 42.2 Registration for JHOT A JHOT Competitor must be specifically registered with ADAA as a JHOT Competitor to be eligible to be awarded JHOT Certificates and achieve JHOT Titles. A Competitor may not be registered as JHOT if the Dog has been awarded (or is eligible to receive) any ADAA Titles whilst registered to another Owner. A Junior competing with a Dog that is not a registered JHOT Competitor may achieve Clear Round Certificates within the JP or any other Programme they are eligible to enter. A Junior that is a registered JHOT Competitor may achieve both a Clear Round and a JHOT Certificate within the JP and any other Programme for Agility/Jumping Tests they are eligible to enter. ADAA may cancel a Competitor’s JHOT registration if it is determined that the Dog is handled in Competition more than 10% of the time and/or trained by someone else. 42.3 Using IP and RP Titled Dogs within the JP It is not unusual for a Junior Handler to be exposed to Competition for the first time through the use of a Dog that is on the IPR or RPR, owned by a parent or friend and that has various IP, RP and/or CP Titles to its name. As such, there are no restrictions with regards to IP, RP and/or CP Titles placed on the Dog for eligibility to a Class within the JP. 42.4 Junior Games The JP does not include Individual or Team Games. 42.5 Use of Clear Round and JHOT Certificates Both Clear Round and JHOT Certificates may be achieved from any Standard within the JP. ADAA Agility Regulations - 72 - Only a registered JHOT Competitor may be awarded a JHOT Certificate. A JHOT Certificate will be awarded to a registered JHOT Competitor for any Clear Round in any Agility/Jumping Test from any Programme they are eligible to enter. A Junior and Dog that are not a registered JHOT Competitor will only be eligible for a Clear Round Certificate for use towards Junior Handler Awards (JHA’s), but will not be eligible for a JHOT Certificate for use towards JHOT Titles. ADAA and/or the Judge may refuse to issue a JHOT Certificate if it is determined that the Dog from a registered JHOT Competitor is being regularly trained and/or handled (in any Programme) by someone else (adult or Junior). In such case the Junior will receive a Clear Round Certificate that may be used towards Junior Handler Awards (JHA’s). Clear Round Certificates achieved within the JP cannot be used towards JHOT Titles. JHOT Certificates achieved within the JP cannot be used towards Junior Handler Awards (JHA’s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 thanks for that! I found the enitre section in the Rule book but I'm not a literal person and found it hard to understand what it meant, I'll be emailing ADAA sometime to see if there are any trails that will have a dedicated junior ring! Just so we can make sure that we are that trial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddii Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 thanks for that!I found the enitre section in the Rule book but I'm not a literal person and found it hard to understand what it meant, I'll be emailing ADAA sometime to see if there are any trails that will have a dedicated junior ring! Just so we can make sure that we are that trial! ADCQ are holding a trial on Feb 07 for beginners only. the link to the entry is here........ http://www.adaa.com.au/schedules/adcq07feb09.htm The elementary events do not have weavers in them, the starters do, but run starters rules on the weavers. Hope to see you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smisch Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) We're gonna be there with my friend who's entering her bc (who runs at a snails pace!) too.. Jock should be flying we're getting the A-frame built up tomorrow finally!! so its looking promising! So which do I enter?? Jock has good weaves.. so can we enter all four??.. Sorry for all the questions! Edited December 30, 2008 by ♥-smisch-♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddii Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 We're gonna be there with my friend who's entering her bc (who runs at a snails pace!) too.. Jock should be flying we're getting the A-frame built up tomorrow finally!! so its looking promising! :D I'll have the goofy looking BC who runs at a million miles an hour until he gets confused and then we pretty much stop! The other one will be going off her nut in the crate because she isn't getting a run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordacollies4me Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 We're gonna be there with my friend who's entering her bc (who runs at a snails pace!) too.. Jock should be flying we're getting the A-frame built up tomorrow finally!! so its looking promising!So which do I enter?? Jock has good weaves.. so can we enter all four??.. Sorry for all the questions! yes you can enter all four... once you get your BAAD title (four elementary passes) then you cannot enter Elementary events... if you manage to get your AAD title(four Starters passes) first/before your BAAD title(yes this is possible, Coco missed out on her BAAD by 1 card), then you can not enter into either Elementary or Starters... You can also if you are just starting enter Intermediate events, Open A(but not Open B) events, as well as the pairs... most if not all games are usually Open A events... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 While we're on ADAA rules ;) What is Jumplers? One of the games in the March trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaCharlie Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ahh, someone explained that to me at the last trial. I think it like Gamblers without contacts (so basically a jumping course with normal gamblers rules). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Not ADAA but I don't want to start a new topic ;) Novice Jumping in ANKC has weaves doesn't it? We are almost there with the weaves (I hope!) but not quite yet. I haven't yet registered with DogsNSW but just trying to figure out when I could enter some stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaCharlie Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Not ADAA but I don't want to start a new topic ;) Novice Jumping in ANKC has weaves doesn't it? We are almost there with the weaves (I hope!) but not quite yet. I haven't yet registered with DogsNSW but just trying to figure out when I could enter some stuff. No weaves in any of the jumping (except the open courses). Thats why Charlie is restricted to jumping I figured I could get him all the way to masters without ever having to teach him to weave ADAA has no weaves in elementary and in some of the games. I'm dreading the day Charlie gets his BAAD, for now he seems to be really good at dropping one bar in each course, Im so proud of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Cool thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordacollies4me Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 While we're on ADAA rules :rolleyes: What is Jumplers? One of the games in the March trial. Jumplers description... from the clean run book of agility games... Take a bit of jumpers, add a bit of gamblers.. shake it up, and youv'e got Jumplers. This is a fun game that marries speed and jumping to distance work. in Brief This jumpers course must be run in the sequence specified by the judge. Time will be deducted from the performance and the total score, for correctly executing the distance challenges as indicated by the judge... The judge will specify the containment area. The handler wiul have the option of remaining inside the containment area throughout the dogs run, or remaining outside. The course will be balanced so that either option is challenging. Should the handler leave the contaiment area at anytime during the dogs run, the bonus subtraction of points from the total score will be lost. There is no penalty for not attempting the distance challenges. The handler may opt to run portions of the course or the entire course, as a straightforward jumpers round. Scoring Jumplers is scored time plus faults. the team with the lowest score wins. Course Design The course consists only of jumps and tunnels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Cool so I could run it as a jumpers course. Not sure I have my distance handling up to scratch yet :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddii Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Cool so I could run it as a jumpers course. Not sure I have my distance handling up to scratch yet Sure can - you just have to be REALLY quick to make course time! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordacollies4me Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 REALLY REALLY REALLY QUICK!!! but yes can be done... is a great game to enter, if not just to learn how to play it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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