Tibbiemax71 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yes, that's the turn..when done right, it's quite elegant to watch...when not...well....won't go there!As for those that excel in traditional obedience bombing out in Rally...VERY common! We like to humble those traditionalists! Thats good to know then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yes, that's the turn..when done right, it's quite elegant to watch...when not...well....won't go there! Just so you know (if you haven't been told already at seminars), apparently Australians commonly call the left about turn a "pivot turn". Any tips on doing it right/well... regardless of what it's called? That's a different turn altogether. The left About Turn has handler doing a U turn (left turn into the dog) the dog does the about turn (right turn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yes, that's the turn..when done right, it's quite elegant to watch...when not...well....won't go there! Just so you know (if you haven't been told already at seminars), apparently Australians commonly call the left about turn a "pivot turn". Any tips on doing it right/well... regardless of what it's called? That's a different turn altogether. The left About Turn has handler doing a U turn (left turn into the dog) the dog does the about turn (right turn) Yep that's what is called the pivot turn here I think in normal obedience trials, when asked to do left about turn you can either turn into the dog and the dog has to turn on the spot/pivot or you can do the pivot turn where the handler pivots and the dog goes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 you wait til you see what a pivot turn is in rally....hehehe We got them going left and right and 180 degrees.....higher levels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamby Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Help Anglesun Is my understanding of the station "Halt-Call Front-Finish Right" correct? When the dog has to go to heel at the right hand side of handler without sitting as handler moved forward, does the dog then need to heel on the right hand side of the handler until the next station? If not, how do you get the dog back to the left heel position? Ohhhhhh Hurry Hurry 25 April, I need instructions on the exercises so that I don't confuse my class members any more than they already are Looking forward to reading your reply Thanks Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 My guess (may well be wrong) is that you have to do the around the back finish (as opposed to flip/swing/military finish) after the recall (call front) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamby Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Helen I know, the 270 one gets me all the time as I can only cut the circle into 90, 180, 360. What did you think of the rest of the course? You will have to join us one Thurday night and run through the course with the other class members (don't tell Helen though will you) Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ohhhhhh Hurry Hurry 25 April, I need instructions on the exercises so that I don't confuse my class members any more than they already are Looking forward to reading your reply Thanks Wendy Have you joined the yahoo group? There are excellent descriptions of the exercises in the file section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I know, the 270 one gets me all the time as I can only cut the circle into 90, 180, 360. Just think of the 270 as 180 plus 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Is my understanding of the station "Halt-Call Front-Finish Right" correct?When the dog has to go to heel at the right hand side of handler without sitting as handler moved forward, does the dog then need to heel on the right hand side of the handler until the next station? I'm not Angelsun, but his is from the overseas 2008 regulations... "Call Dog Front–Finish Right–Forward–While heeling, the handler stops forward motion and calls the dog to the front position (dog sits in front and faces the handler). The handler may take several steps backward as the dog turns and moves to sit in the front position. Second part of the exercise directs the handler to command and/or signal the dog to change from the front position by moving to the handler’s right, around behind the handler, toward heel position. As the dog clears the handler’s path, the handler moves forward before the dog has completely returned to the heel position. The dog does not sit before moving forward in heel position with the handler. " My understanding of this is that there is no "halt/sit" as for traditional obedience - the handler goes from walking forward to taking a couple of steps backward while calling the dog to the front - where the dog sits as per a "traditional" recall. The the dog returns to heel, via the right hand side of the handler (ie., behind the handler) EXCEPT the dog does not sit in the heel position - both dog and handler move forward together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Help AnglesunIs my understanding of the station "Halt-Call Front-Finish Right" correct? When the dog has to go to heel at the right hand side of handler without sitting as handler moved forward, does the dog then need to heel on the right hand side of the handler until the next station? If not, how do you get the dog back to the left heel position? Ohhhhhh Hurry Hurry 25 April, I need instructions on the exercises so that I don't confuse my class members any more than they already are Looking forward to reading your reply Thanks Wendy OK...don't think of RIGHT as heeling on the right side..what this station means is the following: You are heeling with the dog on your left as usual. Come to the sign, and halt (dog sits in heel position) In the novice stage, you can take a couple of steps backwards and call your dog to the 'front' position. Dog SITS in the front position. Finish right means, the dog must go AROUND you on YOUR right, back into heel position. If there is a halt, the dog sits in heel position on the left..if it is just a finish right/forward, the dog must NOT stop and sit, which means as soon as the dog comes around the back of your legs, step foward and heel to the next station. Make sense? (where the heck is the webcam when I need it and my trained dog!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamby Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Help AnglesunIs my understanding of the station "Halt-Call Front-Finish Right" correct? Wendy OK...don't think of RIGHT as heeling on the right side..what this station means is the following: You are heeling with the dog on your left as usual. Come to the sign, and halt (dog sits in heel position) In the novice stage, you can take a couple of steps backwards and call your dog to the 'front' position. Dog SITS in the front position. Finish right means, the dog must go AROUND you on YOUR right, back into heel position. If there is a halt, the dog sits in heel position on the left..if it is just a finish right/forward, the dog must NOT stop and sit, which means as soon as the dog comes around the back of your legs, step foward and heel to the next station. Make sense? (where the heck is the webcam when I need it and my trained dog!) Thank you Thank you Thank you to Anglesun. Thanks also to Squeak and Kavik Does that mean that "Finish Left" is where the dog either flips back to heel position or the hamdler guides the dog into heel position? My group will be very pleased when I tell them on Thursday night Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 HelenI know, the 270 one gets me all the time as I can only cut the circle into 90, 180, 360. What did you think of the rest of the course? You will have to join us one Thurday night and run through the course with the other class members (don't tell Helen though will you) Wendy Sounds like fun, will organise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsun Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Does that mean that "Finish Left" is where the dog either flips back to heel position or the hamdler guides the dog into heel position? Yes, the finish left means "swing" where the dog does not go around the handler but spins to drop to the heel spot. Remember..always watch to see if it's finish left/right then HALT or just forward....many have gotten nailed in marks for either missing the sit, or sitting when it's not called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamby Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Can I add any DOL names to the Geelong Rally-O Workshop? Also what days are you thinking about attending Helen Staff n Toller Shoemonster (how many more shores have you bought?) The Spotted Devil Wolfgirl Jen Any more? Getting really excited now only a month to go. Might have the class try Rally Jacks tommorow night for the last night of BDAG's Block 1. It does sound like fun. Thanks to all who helped me with the Halt Call Front Finish Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Gamby I will be coming to watch tomorrow night if that's okay, I've had a busted foot for the last couple of weeks and couldn't walk much or wear shoes I am so looking forward to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Thanks Wendy had a ball tonight and it was lovely to meet you and everyone else :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Was great to meet you, Chazer thought so too LOL - he is always excited to see someone new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Was great to meet you, Chazer thought so too LOL - he is always excited to see someone new He is gorgeous and gives the best cuddles and kisses too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsdog Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Angelsun, people here getting antsy, want to know details and fill in attendance forms for Sutherland seminar on May 30/31. As well as our own club members people are coming from Wollongong, Springwood, Gosford, North Shore and everyone is soooo keen. I would like to be able to give them some info so they can include it in their monthly club magazines. Thanks, Noels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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