rugerfly Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Looking through some of my photos today, was generally happy, but thinking how tricky white dogs are to photograph 'sharply' I havnt adjusted any colour at all in this photo so you get the idea. Any critisism you can give me would be great or tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Nothing wrong with that! Well, except it's American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I agree, nothing wrong with that. (but I am laughing at Luke ) white dogs & harsh sun are always tricky. Come practice on my lot whenever you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Where and when lets do it this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats very nice of you luke to say. Yes it is a baby Yank, a cute fluff ball. I did do this one in the other thread though, Black is really hard too I do miss that 50mm lens, think i shall have to purchase one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubiton Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 White - change your aperture to a F stop higher than using for normal pics Black - change your aperture to a F Stop lower than using for ormla pics and then use the highlight tool in photoshop or similar. For black dogs try to take the pics early morning or later afternoon in the full sunlight as it lights up the shadowy areas of hte dog better. If you dont take the pic manually and use auto settings I cannot help as you have to assume control or the caemra will make a best guess on the overall pic not the black or white extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Thanks Rubiton! Thats why I try not to use Auto settings. You never get the speed or colour you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickie Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 One of my favourite photographers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnydaystudi...57605027147422/ He has 2 white standard poodles and an AMAZING ability to capture them. If I had lots of money I would fly to Canada & take lessons from him, photography & photoshop (and I would LOVE to cuddle his beautiful girls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Looking through some of my photos today, was generally happy, but thinking how tricky white dogs are to photograph 'sharply' I havnt adjusted any colour at all in this photo so you get the idea. Any critisism you can give me would be great or tips. Gee Im definatly no expert but I think that looks pretty awesome, beautiful doggy!! and Your funny Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 oooh i did a white standard poodie today, must look at that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 One of my favourite photographers:http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnydaystudi...57605027147422/ He has 2 white standard poodles and an AMAZING ability to capture them. If I had lots of money I would fly to Canada & take lessons from him, photography & photoshop (and I would LOVE to cuddle his beautiful girls). Wow his dogs are stunning, and fabulos photos!! I always thought it was me with my white dog I can never seem to get really good pics of her they all seem a bit over exposed even though I dont think they are, now I know its not just me I feel better now!! heres a few attemps of capturing some good shots but they just dont cut it, where as I take pics of my other 3 and I love them, Perhaps it is just me These ones just for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 They are good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) White - change your aperture to a F stop higher than using for normal pics Black - change your aperture to a F Stop lower than using for ormla pics and then use the highlight tool in photoshop or similar. For black dogs try to take the pics early morning or later afternoon in the full sunlight as it lights up the shadowy areas of hte dog better. If you dont take the pic manually and use auto settings I cannot help as you have to assume control or the caemra will make a best guess on the overall pic not the black or white extreme. What is the suggestion for black and white dogs? I find that the whites on the face often over expose so I drop the exposure a fraction and end up losing the blacks Even worse if they have dark eyes. I have found staying in the shade helps but it can still happen a bit. Edited December 8, 2008 by piper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Would matrix metering help with that? Vickie has some dogs with white schnozes and black faces.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 White - change your aperture to a F stop higher than using for normal pics Black - change your aperture to a F Stop lower than using for ormla pics and then use the highlight tool in photoshop or similar. For black dogs try to take the pics early morning or later afternoon in the full sunlight as it lights up the shadowy areas of hte dog better. If you dont take the pic manually and use auto settings I cannot help as you have to assume control or the caemra will make a best guess on the overall pic not the black or white extreme. What is the suggestion for black and white dogs? I find that the whites on the face often over expose so I drop the exposure a fraction and end up losing the blacks Even worse if they have dark eyes. I have found staying in the shade helps but it can still happen a bit. I'd try... Use your histogram. Exposure to the right. If there's still not enough detail in the shadows, then the dynamic range of the scene is too much for the camera to handle. Then you must diffuse the light. As you said: stand in shade, still too much dynamic range? Diffuse the light further (find heavier shade) or use a diffusing screen or get more light onto the dark dog (a reflector for example). You shouldn't need to do much more than expose to the right though, the dynamic range of modern digital SLRs should allow you to capture detail in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubiton Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) Forget black and white dogs - do you know the worst subject? Wedding photos where the bride is pale very pale even after having a tan applied in a white wedding dress and then the groom has dark hair, dark skin and in a black suit. And its a sunny 32 degree day in summer. For getting a happy medium you have to judge whether you prefer using photoshop to bring up the blacks or if you have a background that can handle the whites being a little overexposed. Or as Luke suggests take the sun out of the equation and take the images with even (or as close as you can) in the shade which takes the glow out of the whites so you can adjust for the blacks. Mind you I find you can get away with exposing more for the blacks if you have something like green grass or dark green trees behind the subject. If you have something bright in the background the whites will dissolve into it and everything will be overexposed. Hopefully two images above - one is a white horse against a dark background (well dark clouds) and the other is against lighter background. The light horse and background makes the darker rider not quite as clear as the darker background as it all kind of glows a little. Edited December 8, 2008 by rubiton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugerfly Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 I feel your pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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