RachelleBuck Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I thought someone out there is DOL land may be interested to know about this: Border Collie Club of Victoria Inc. Affiliated with Dogs Victoria~ OPEN HERDING TRIAL ~SATURDAY 28TH FEBRUARY 2009SUNDAY 1ST MARCH 2009To be held atKCC PARK, WESTERNPORT HWY, SKYEEntries Close Monday 16th February 2009Entries to the Herding Secretary,Mr Ross Carlson, 1007 Frankston-Flinders Road, Somerville, VIC 3912For enquiries:-Phone: 03 - 5977 6226Email: [email protected]Cheques made payable to “Border Collie Club of Victoria”Sheep & DucksEntries will be limited dependant on number of stock available.Preference will be given based on date entries received.SATURDAY 28th February 2009Judge 1 – Mrs. M. Stapleton – B course ducks, A course sheep, A course ducksJudge 2 – Mrs. K. Dourley – A course ducks, B course ducks, A course sheepTrial Entry Fees: $25.00 first run, per dog, includes catalogue and all sundriesSubsequent entry per dog, per run $20.00SUNDAY 1st March 2009Judge 1 – Mrs. A. Richardson – Pre-Trial, Herding Test, Instinct TestJudge 2 – Mr. B. Richardson – Instinct Test, Pre-Trial, Herding TestTest Entry Fees: PRE- TRIAL: $15.00 – per entry per dog, includes catalogue and all sundriesHERDING TEST, INSTINCT TEST: $10.00 – per entry per dog, includes all sundriesOne entry form per dog, per run including all titlesPlease state on entry Judge 1 or Judge 2 & dateIf confirmation of entry is required, please attach email address or self addressed envelopeCheck In Time:8.15am – 8.45amJudging Starts:Approximately 9.15am after Handlers briefing of all levelsHandlers briefing will begin at 9.00am and conclude no later than 9.15am for all levelsThe committee reserves the right to substitute Judges, suspend trialling or change venue at any given time.Notice will be given to all entrantsAwards: Trophy & Sash for class WinnersRibbon to Second & Third placing’sHigh in Trial – each stock typeReserve in Trial – each stock typeHighest Scoring Border Collie Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Could someone tell me what these are: Pre-Trial, Herding Test, Instinct Test??? Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelleBuck Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 They are trialing levels. You start by doing an instinct test (this is a certificate not a title). You don't have to do this level but most people do. Then you move on to herding test. Once you gain two passes you get your HT title then onto pre trial where to need two passes to get your PT title. You need each of your passes by a differant judge to gain your title and most people can get the title in one day (that is why there is two judges for all three levels) Hope that all makes some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelpieBess Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Hi Rachelle Do you have any idea if you have to be registered with anybody to do a herding instinct test? I have a 2 year old kelpie cross that will round up the horses and the cows at home but I've never done any obedience classes with her or anything with a dog club. I can call her off the stock & she sits, stays etc. Just thinking about doing the herding and wondering where should I start? ie. just wondering if I can enter for this day & do the instinct test or if I need to be a member of the herding association first? I will give the secretary a call. Cheers Edited December 17, 2008 by KelpieBess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Just a quick correction to this: They are trialing levels. You start by doing an instinct test (this is a certificate not a title). You don't have to do this level but most people do. All dogs must go through Instinct Certificate. They only need 1 pass. Insticnt Certificate involves the dog demonstrating basic control of a wait on a long line and recall to the handler and then showing an interest in moving the stock. Usually only takes a couple of minutes maximum per dog. 10 minutes is allowed though, which gives time for a slow to turn on dog to warm up and show interest. When I have judged though I don't think I have ever had to go over 5 mintures per dog. They are there to show instinct, not do a training session. The Herding Test level is then optional or you can move up to Pre-Trial. 2 passes at Pre-trial and you can go through to the trial classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hi RachelleDo you have any idea if you have to be registered with anybody to do a herding instinct test? I have a 2 year old kelpie cross that will round up the horses and the cows at home but I've never done any obedience classes with her or anything with a dog club. I can call her off the stock & she sits, stays etc. Just thinking about doing the herding and wondering where should I start? ie. just wondering if I can enter for this day & do the instinct test or if I need to be a member of the herding association first? I will give the secretary a call. Cheers You will need to be a member of Dogs Victoria to participate in ANKC herding tests and trials. If you are just interested in having a go then maybe try and find out where there is training near you ,and then if you get hooked you can join Dogs Vic and compete. Joining Dogs Vic just to do an Instinct Cert would be expensive IMO, unless you are also going to be trialling in obedience, agility etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelpieBess Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hi RachelleDo you have any idea if you have to be registered with anybody to do a herding instinct test? I have a 2 year old kelpie cross that will round up the horses and the cows at home but I've never done any obedience classes with her or anything with a dog club. I can call her off the stock & she sits, stays etc. Just thinking about doing the herding and wondering where should I start? ie. just wondering if I can enter for this day & do the instinct test or if I need to be a member of the herding association first? I will give the secretary a call. Cheers You will need to be a member of Dogs Victoria to participate in ANKC herding tests and trials. If you are just interested in having a go then maybe try and find out where there is training near you ,and then if you get hooked you can join Dogs Vic and compete. Joining Dogs Vic just to do an Instinct Cert would be expensive IMO, unless you are also going to be trialling in obedience, agility etc. Thanks Piper, I live about 10 minutes from KCC park so hopefully will be able to find some training I found some threads on here which mention Southern Dog Club I think in Keysborough/Bangholme so will try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelleBuck Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 I know that southern no longer does training for herding. But if you contact the herding sec. for the Australian Shepherd Club, I think her name is Kate, I know she does it. Best of luck!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityStar Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 It may be a silly question but is there any training necessary for the instinct test. I can practice recalls but for the part of interest in moving stock do you just put your dog in the situation where this is possible and see how they react. I should go along and watch as my pup is only 5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelleBuck Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 They changed the rules at the start of last year. Your dog is meant to have been with stock before they do the test. But please come and have a look. Their will be people there that can give you some more information and you can also see what you need to do. The test is not hard but best to know what you are up to first i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelleBuck Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Ok So they have had over 100 entries over the 2 days!!! Has anyone in DOL land entered??? We will be there both days, Saturday helping and Sunday trialling!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteview Aussies Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm going I'm going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelleBuck Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Only cos you have to?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superminty Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm entered on Saturday - 2 sheep A courses and 1 ducks A course. What was I thinking! Praying all the hard work we did over summer (i.e. very little, although he did actually get on sheep a couple times) will pay off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteview Aussies Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Only cos you have to?????? That is not the point here. And your going Saturday why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteview Aussies Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm entered on Saturday - 2 sheep A courses and 1 ducks A course. What was I thinking! Praying all the hard work we did over summer (i.e. very little, although he did actually get on sheep a couple times) will pay off Good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagalot Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Me and Cooper will be there on Saturday :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteview Aussies Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Me and Cooper will be there on Saturday :rolleyes: What did you enter? Or just coming for a look? Anyone else going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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