wire Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hi, a good friend of mine arranged a dog groomer to come and wash my boy. She said she had done my breed before so I was ok with this as she was highly recommended. She was a really nice girl, very patient as this was his first experience and he can be a handful. I had no problems She washed him with the medicated shampoo I gave her and did an excellent job. My question is this. When she blow dryed him, which took some time she didn't brush or groom him. His hair looked great but when I tried to brush him the next day I found it was a little tangled. Is this standard? he is a single coated Irish Wheaten and I have wanted to take him over to see Goldie but haven't had time. Is it normal to not brush when the blower is used? To be honest, I always follow up with a good brush after I bath him so am just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 My understanding of the franchised operators, e.g. Aussie Pooch Mobile is that they bath the dog and that's it. I had my own business and always gave the dogs an all over brush BEFORE bathing. If the dog had any tangles, matts then they would be dealt to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I think they brush first. My mobile groomer did my neighbour's dog before shaving my two. His dog is an Aussie Shepherd - she looked beautiful and her coat had definitely been brushed. My friend is also a groomer and she told me that if you wash a knotted coat, it makes the knots far worse so I'm sure they'd brush first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I brush as I blow dry (check for knots prior to bath) and then finish with a comb through to make sure there are no tangles left in the coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliewood Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 What can happen with some coats is IF the nozzle or concentrator was used during drying it can sometimes cause the coat to knott up on itself. Therefore using the nozzle is not advisable. I am only guessing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 A large percentage of mobiles don't brush at all. They let the force dryer do the work. The dogs don't get a true brush out, rather just a bath and dry. It's common practice for alot of mobiles, which is why I always recommend salons for coated breeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I am a mobile dog groomer and always give a quick brush before washing and a thorough brushing after followed by a combing to make sure I haven;t missed any tangles. If you are generally happy with the way your dog was handled and washed, next time ask her to give her a thorough brushing after the blow drying. If she's as good as you think she is she will be happy to do this. She may charge a little extra for this service but it would be worth doing. Just my 2 cents worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldiesRgr8Poodles2 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Oh no... not knotts in such an elegant dog Dont stress too much wiht the mobile people unfortunately you dont tend to get what you pay for. Not saying all mobile are like it but most are. The idevidual operators that have done the training are good but he others suck and certainly dont know how to handle each breeds coat indevidually and specially. Wheaten coats do knot up very easily unless a flat nossle is use and brushed a bit while drying then a finishing brush to get any excess drying tangles out. A really good grooming spray can be usefully to help keep the coat sleek and knott free and then it doesnt go on the skin and make him more itchy if thats why he has medicated shampoo. Get into the knots ASAP because once the knotts get in there they get worse quick. Just on a side note but Curly1 Grooming a dog weather its a wash and dry or a full clip should always include a full and thorough brush and unless matted and excessive time needs to be spent dematting(then you should charge for the brushing). It should ALWAYS be part and parcell of washing a drying a dog. Any groomer not prepared to brush a wash and dry thoroughly should re asses their methods and ideals of grooming. Not saying YOU are one of these people as you said your not but it shouldnt be suggested that to get a normal brush done in a wash and dry should cost extra. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks for your replies Goldie, will be in touch with you soon. Have been telling my little boy all about you and to say he's excited to meet you is well, an understatement! I'm afraid you will have your hands full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 There is a world of difference between a 'Mobile Groomer" and a "Mobile Hydrobath Service" in my experience very few of the Hydrobath services will groom out a coat, most don't even dry the dog properly. One I know of advertises as Mobile Hydrobathing and grooming and the grooming consists only of ears and nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 My mum and i are mobile groomers and no dog we do goes back with knots....We are a part of a franchies and in my opinion theres only one other girl i know who works within the same franchise that actually grooms dogs properly...we recently had to give up a few customers who werent in our area to a new girl who came on. Every single customer we handed over ended up making complaints about her!!! She didnt dry the dogs properly she groomer/washed long hair breeds in less than 15minutes...these are dogs we were taking atleast 45mins to an hour on. so yes ALOT of mobile groomers suck, sorry you had a bad experience with one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldiesRgr8Poodles2 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks for your replies Goldie, will be in touch with you soon. Have been telling my little boy all about you and to say he's excited to meet you is well, an understatement! I'm afraid you will have your hands full I cant wait... we love our wheatens!!!! Putting Archie (Incorrect coat) into a semi breed clip tomorrow. His mum doesnt want him in a full breed clip she loves his long ears. But thats her choice. He was such a naught puppy when he was little so was another regular wheaten when he was a puppy... So dont worry we'll be prepared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagsalot Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 We had aussie pooch come out several times and wash riley before I got a hyrdobath. He never got a blow dry, just a quick towel dry with a moisture absorber thing. I didn't think most mobile's dried the dogs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliewood Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 We had aussie pooch come out several times and wash riley before I got a hyrdobath. He never got a blow dry, just a quick towel dry with a moisture absorber thing.I didn't think most mobile's dried the dogs.. The reason I went out on my own was to make sure I did it my way. I did look at ap, but knew I could do it better. There are some of us that do the right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) I didn't really have a bad experience, the girl was lovely and I am sure if I had asked her to follow up with a brush she would have. She was here for a good hour and I was happy to pay her. It's all ok though, I will go and see Goldie and tackle my boy to learn to LOVE his grooming, with her, every week or every day if need be :wink: PS: Hope you have the valium....for me...! Edited November 19, 2008 by wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldiesRgr8Poodles2 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 How did you find out about my secret stash of mummy and daddy valium lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 This is late but if Wire's still around ... The trick with wheaten grooming is to ensure your dog is knot free before being washed. That way, the coat won't matt much during the wash. If it isn't brushed out, any knots will shrink during the wash and be harder to get out. The dog should then be brushed out again when the coat is thoroughly dry. Brushing when the coat is still wet will stretch and damage the coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wire Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 This is late but if Wire's still around ...The trick with wheaten grooming is to ensure your dog is knot free before being washed. That way, the coat won't matt much during the wash. If it isn't brushed out, any knots will shrink during the wash and be harder to get out. The dog should then be brushed out again when the coat is thoroughly dry. Brushing when the coat is still wet will stretch and damage the coat. Thanks Sheridan, what a coincidence, just gave him a bath tonight. This time I did brush him before the shower but he is a little bugger with the grooming. I purchased a new brush yesterday, it seems to be more gentle than the slicker and he was happy munching away on the old brush until it was shower time. Normally I would brush him again when he is almost dry, thanks for the advice I'm using EPO shampoo as he has an itch here and there. So the deal is made, he gets to eat a brush whilst I brush him....hope the Reject shop have an endless supply.... He looks so gorgeous, I could eat him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Wire, I have a wheaten who hides under the bed if he thinks he's going to be brushed. I have to fool him into thinking that he's going to a dog show. I put on his show lead and say 'Show!' in a very cheerful voice and then bribe him with food to get him on his grooming table. A slicker is really the only thing for wheaten knots. Try to get one that has a little ball on top of each pin. A thinly toothed comb is also a must but the best thing I bought for teeny matts that won't comb out with a regular comb is a flea comb. I use a small pair of scissors to split bad matts rather than one of those matt splitting rakes. I found the rakes hurt too much. Another good friend is one of those dog microfibre towels (like a chamois) that get the water out more easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Was going to ask in regard to the itchies, what are you feeding him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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