Caesars mum Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 weighed Mega today and she weighed 76.5 kg which is probably 15 kg to much, also I wouldn't hazard a guess at Caesar's weight as it would scare anyone with a boxer and I would probably get reported to the RSPCA for animal cruelty. I hadn't even notice Mega's weight going up. has anyone put such a large breed on a diet and had success? needs to be filling as they have good appetities. currently they each get 1 chicken frame or piece of lamb flap for dinner 1 cup of RC kibble and 300gr chicken mince usually but beef mince sometimes for breakfast. and youghurt sardines or eggs a couple of times a week. should I change there kibble over to cooked vegeis and what meat could I use that isn't as fatty but still has bone in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huga Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The chicken frames are good, but lamb is quite fatty. I would change the dry for some veggies - have you got a juicer you can pulp them in? That way they are getting a filler added that is low in calories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesars mum Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 The chicken frames are good, but lamb is quite fatty. I would change the dry for some veggies - have you got a juicer you can pulp them in? That way they are getting a filler added that is low in calories thanks huga do you mean take the juice out of the vege and just feed the fibre that is left. I think my new food processor came with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Can't you just cut the amounts? Yeah, they are going to be hungry. Dogs should be hungry I'd be concerned about missing out on nutrition by substituting 'real' food for fillers. Slowly reduce the amount of mince until it's zero. Monitor the weight so they don't drop it too quickly. Alternatively, take them to your vet and get a vet's advice. Edited November 16, 2008 by Luke W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Hey There! Newnewf has done great things with Chief - adopted Newfoundland! But also pumkin/sweet potato are great to keep a dog feeling full but as no fat/little carbs will help strip weight. There was a thread in the general topic with in the last week about Pumpkin! Also cut back on bones if you do feed them partucularly marrow! Sorry just re read - having a blonde moment. A chicken frame or turkey neck or even roo tails are great for dinner but i would cut the mince straight away to 100grm with 1 cup kibble and add a vegies instead for brekky. Then as luke said get rid of the mince altoghether whilst uping the vegies! Good luck! Another edit - I personally mashed sweet potato and put it into 200 grm container (not quite full) cause I did 3 s'potatos at a time so I have a three days supply in the fridge! Edited November 16, 2008 by First Time Puppy Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hey There! Newnewf has done great things with Chief - adopted Newfoundland! But also pumkin/sweet potato are great to keep a dog feeling full but as no fat/little carbs will help strip weight. There was a thread in the general topic with in the last week about Pumpkin! Also cut back on bones if you do feed them partucularly marrow!Sorry just re read - having a blonde moment. A chicken frame or turkey neck or even roo tails are great for dinner but i would cut the mince straight away to 100grm with 1 cup kibble and add a vegies instead for brekky. Then as luke said get rid of the mince altoghether whilst uping the vegies! Good luck! Another edit - I personally mashed sweet potato and put it into 200 grm container (not quite full) cause I did 3 s'potatos at a time so I have a three days supply in the fridge! Do a search for Pumpkin, you'll find quite a few weightloss threads. Go slow, coz they got fat slow obviously if you didn't notice the weight. And just increase the amount of exercise a little as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Definitely get rid of the Lamb Flaps they are very fatty and I sometimes do feed them If I have a very thin dog, the only other thing that will def work it worked with my wee dog who was overweight is a good walk everyday I know Mega probably cant go far but for Ceaser it would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesars mum Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 thanks for all the suggestions will try them out and re weigh her next week when I take her to get her ears checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huga Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The chicken frames are good, but lamb is quite fatty. I would change the dry for some veggies - have you got a juicer you can pulp them in? That way they are getting a filler added that is low in calories thanks huga do you mean take the juice out of the vege and just feed the fibre that is left. I think my new food processor came with one. I know everyone does it differently, but I juice everything and save the pulp, then add a bit of the juice back in so it's a bit sloppy. Then I just freezer bag it in with their frames or whatever (in their portion sizes). So every morning I get 2 Harry and Lola sized portions out of the freezer (one for brekky, one for dinner). Another idea is to give them most (or all) of their meal in the morning - that way they have the whole day to burn it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 best stripping diet 1 carcass each for afternoon tea a couple of cups of brown/white rice mixed boiled with carrot, brocolli stems, lettuce leaves, stock cube, zuchinni, celery etc whatever is leftover. Dont go the best bits give the left overs! now when they get the rice they get it all cooked up, pour some warm water over it to make a soup. Fills them up and they are not hungry. If they are, tough. Dont worry about them it can take their stomachs a while to shrink down but the cooked rice in a soup form will fill them up no worries. They will lose weight in no time. If they dont then give them half a carcass instead of a whole. You can add some flax seed oil to their rice mix to keep their coats nice and shiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Unless the dog is a lazy one i wouldnt consider that diet to be over the top,infcat mine would be under weight on that. Does the dog pinch the others meals?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 First question, how active are the dogs? If they aren't get them moving. That amount of food for a giant dog is not alot. They need exercise as well as a balanced diet Swimming is great if they are that overweight to help with mobility Can you take them for a longer walk or 2 a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouty Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Scout my rottie has been on a "eating plan" since Jan this year. She has lost 10kilos. She was about 52.2kilos something like that in Jan 2008. Now she is a smaller dog of 42kilos. She has been put on RC but gets a measly (sp) 150grams in morning and 150grams at night. Both meals soaked in water. Cabbage and rice and carrots when available. She also gets a bone once a week or one bag of 4 chicken carcass spread over that week. Scout however has sereve mobility problems so we have found it very hard to get the weight off her. However the vet is very pleased with her shape and movement. Good luck with it Scouty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesars mum Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Unless the dog is a lazy one i wouldnt consider that diet to be over the top,infcat mine would be under weight on that.Does the dog pinch the others meals?? Caesar is a food theif and finishes of Nala's food when ever she leaves any. Mega never touches the other bowls and is very seditory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Unless the dog is a lazy one i wouldnt consider that diet to be over the top,infcat mine would be under weight on that.Does the dog pinch the others meals?? Caesar is a food theif and finishes of Nala's food when ever she leaves any. Mega never touches the other bowls and is very seditory Arghhh that could be Caesar main problem then, feed him away from the others in his crate and then put the left overs away before he comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesars mum Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Unless the dog is a lazy one i wouldnt consider that diet to be over the top,infcat mine would be under weight on that.Does the dog pinch the others meals?? Caesar is a food theif and finishes of Nala's food when ever she leaves any. Mega never touches the other bowls and is very seditory Arghhh that could be Caesar main problem then, feed him away from the others in his crate and then put the left overs away before he comes out. yep started this morning I put my foot down and said no and took away all left overs, he looked heart broken but I will be strong. mega's weight on the weekend really frightened me and I have not weighed Caesar in months and not sure I want too atm. he did give me a dirty look when he got vegies and a bit of roo meat and mega wasn't too impressed either. mind you they could both go a couple of days without food like Nala does from time to time, she just self fasts occassionally especially if its hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I would weigh him and then you will know if its working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I would halve their meals.. literally. There is no reason why a dog can't lose weight fast. Any reason you feed them twice a day? Once a day is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesars mum Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 no real reason why I feed the twice, I might have read somewhere that giant breeds should have 2 small meals rather then all there food at once. maybe to stop bloat or something. maybe I should give there bones one day and meat and vege the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 i still feed two meals a day even when dieting, no sense in decreasing the food then making them wait twice as long. Then they start stealing or fighting. keep the food the same every day, as much as you can. Chop change days dont work as my grandmother 12kg jack russell can attest to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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