Ptolomy Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 OK - here is challenge # 2. No reason for it - just something to try. Most dogs have a good recall by the time the are ready for CCD. However, if you change the picture, will the dog still come on the first call? So I would be interested to hear if you think your dog will come and do a straight present, or if you think it will just sit there - then post and let us know what happened. Leave the dog in a sit stay/wait. Take 15 steps, but do not about turn. Call your dog using a verbal and hand signal as you would in a normal recall and let us know what happens. Be specific if the dog comes and tell us how it presented, whether it sat or stood etc and let us also know what level of training the dog is at. A reminder - no food to be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Oooh good one! Just finishing dinner then will go give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 OK - here is challenge # 2. No reason for it - just something to try. Most dogs have a good recall by the time the are ready for CCD. However, if you change the picture, will the dog still come on the first call? So I would be interested to hear if you think your dog will come and do a straight present, or if you think it will just sit there - then post and let us know what happened. Leave the dog in a sit stay/wait. Take 15 steps, but do not about turn. Call your dog using a verbal and hand signal as you would in a normal recall and let us know what happens. Be specific if the dog comes and tell us how it presented, whether it sat or stood etc and let us also know what level of training the dog is at. A reminder - no food to be used I'll try this tomorrow. I can almost guarantee what my dog will do. He'll come and sit halfway between 'front' position and 'heel' position. My dog is 8mo and is ready to graduate to 'level 3'. His recall is good but his 'front' isn't straight enough. Too much returning to heel after recall I think It's something I need to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Ok first was Molly, came in lovely then sat about 10 o clock in front of me almost there! Then Ed, who came to a lovely heel beside me (Mind you with Ed I am not doing these in drive, as we are part way through doing the drive training, but give me a few more months and I'll let you know what a dog in full food drive will do!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) hehe - I tried a couple of times. Notes: 1. Changed too many variables: - it's dark - never trained at night before - we weren't in 'training mode' - didn't warm up, didn't have my treat bag on... 2. I am still working on the difference between 'wait' and 'stay' - so his 'wait' isn't as strong as his 'stay'. Attempt 1 Just outside the front door, no warm up, never perfromed a stay/wait in that location before Broke wait when I got about 12 paces away and ran toward me. Attempt 2 Same location Shortened distance to 10 paces Recalled to about 10 o'clock, sat. Attempt 3 On lawn - usually training location. But it's still quite dark. Minimal garden lighting. Broke wait at 12 paces as above. Attempt 4 Same location Used down instead of sit. Recalled to a rough heel position (about 1 foot away on my left), sat. An interesting exercise and some lessons learned!!!! PS - He's probably 6 months away from CCD. Edited November 3, 2008 by Luke W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J... Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) Darcy came straight into an autosit at heel. She has her CCD but its been almost 18 months since we've done any formal obedience and recall. I did wake her up from roasting herself in front of the heater to try it Edited November 3, 2008 by Jess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Its raining here at the moment - so I will give it a go tomorrow night. I think Blaize will just sit there when called . Scoota will come and will sit in front but it wont be a terrific present Beans I think will come and either stand or sit in heel position Lexi - hmm not sure she will probably come and sit between a front and heel position. I wonder how close in my gestimates I will be..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thinking, thinking...I think Poppy will present in front but I don't think she will be as straight as she normally is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) Mishka - came and did a straight present though could have been a bit closer. She has 2 passes at CD before she went on strike and I have taught her to recall from different positions and do a straight finish. Moss - came and sat at right angles with his head in front of my legs- so half way there. He is just about ready to trial in novice. Cole came and stood in front off me. He has very little formal obedience but a very reliable recall. Edited November 3, 2008 by Janba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 My guess for Jarrah (remembering that we have done hardly anything on formal recalls with a sit in front) is that he will come straight to heel (stand at heel for dancing - most probable) or he will come around & stand in front (our main working position for training). If I face him he's been taught to come to the front position (stand) but if Im facing away with feet together he's been taught to come to heel (although I would normally call heel, not come). I'll try it tomorrow & see how we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'll try this tomorrow! My guess is that Ruby will come and sit about 9 or 10 o'clock looking at me. She's a Lab, 22 months old, obedience trained since a pup with food rewards, and just about ready for CCD (once I improve the focus she's there I think, yes I know, a big part of it!! And my confidence needs an up, too!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I too will try this with my guys tomorrow . It will be interesting to see who does what . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Well I tried and Ness came to heel . I am not really surprised though as I forgot I have done recalls to heel before ala the second part of the UDX exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'll try this one with Diesel later. My prediction is that he will go to heel position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How interesting!!! Jedi (7 months old; clicker trained) - Recalled and sat at right angles to my leg... Then again, we have never worked on formal recalls except from in front. Not that that's an excuse because................. Ahsoka (15 weeks old; clicker trained) - Recalled with a perfect present to front - straight, nice and close, focus on me... the lot!! That was a huge surprise!!!!!! I thought she would sit behind me or who knows what, but definitely not what she did! I haven't done much formal recall work with her at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Poppy came straight away, did a 360 around me before sitting infront at about 11.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I manage to try it with Kenzie - hmm she came bounding over to me and then ran around me in a circle and then launched herself at my sleeve . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I manage to try it with Kenzie - hmm she came bounding over to me and then ran around me in a circle and then launched herself at my sleeve . At least she came? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) I really must put the training in drive DVDs up higher on the shelf so she can't find them when I am not around . True come she did hahahahaha. Might be the last time I try one of Ptolomy's challenges. Obviously they aren't suited to black and white land sharks . Edited November 4, 2008 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I manage to try it with Kenzie - hmm she came bounding over to me and then ran around me in a circle and then launched herself at my sleeve . a schutzhund BC !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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