pikespooches Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Someone has asked me to try and seek some help with their much loved little dog. She is an almost 3 year old Cavalier who has suddently developed a sore foot and was licking at it. The vet gave them some treatment and then she became stiff in her movements. She started to lose more hair and they confirmed ringworm and a swap confrimed some staff but the vet cannot explain the stiffness and major hair loss not jsut on the ringworm areas. Aslo she is still eating but has lost a lot of weight. After a huge vet bill teh vet can give them no answer and have suggested a biopsy of over $400 on a lymph node for cancer but after almost $1000 vet bill are broke! I did suggest a second vet opinion but to get this they would still have to pay and to travel to another town. I am waiting for them to bring the little dog here for pics but I was wondering if it could be a spider or lizard bite. Or from a cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'd probably biopsy if they can, just to rule out things like cutaneous lymphoma. Have they done x-rays? Some dogs develop lick granulomas on areas where are sore. Is it possible the dog has some sort of deeper injury/arthritis which the dog has subsequently started licking at? Hope she is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Are there any other symptoms? Ringworm is not that common in adult dogs, usually affects youngsters due to their immune system being immature..... It is a fungus (not actually a worm).....and they test for it by using a light.......Thsi dogs immune system is in trouble...........Vaccines & diet can be the cause I suppose she may be rampant with a yeast infection.........Canine Candida!!! That is my guess..........switch to a raw diet, eliminate all grains, rice, commercial foods, wheat, cereal, pasta...and yeast thrives on sugar too!!! Feed garlic, apple cider vinegar , kelp, Vit E, Fish Oil, Vit C daily with raw meats, offal & bones.......... autoimmune thyroiditis is another thing it may be......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikespooches Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 They didn't bring the little dog back but I think they wanted to hand her over. I am not allowed to accept any more fosters. But I will give then the advice so far. I suspect that it could have been a diet. vaccine or medication based thing. Also wondered if a bite could cause it. Yes teh light confirmed ringworm and besides being miserable and stiff in her movements and losing her hair and weight loss that is it I think they were trying to say something like cutaneous lymphoma but couldn't remember it. I have never heard of this so may I ask more about it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Without blood tests, you'd be operating in the realm of pure guess work. It sounds quite serious though. It may not be one thing.. it could be a range of issues. I wonder what they feed her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 They didn't bring the little dog back but I think they wanted to hand her over. I am not allowed to accept any more fosters. But I will give then the advice so far. I suspect that it could have been a diet. vaccine or medication based thing. Also wondered if a bite could cause it.Yes teh light confirmed ringworm and besides being miserable and stiff in her movements and losing her hair and weight loss that is it I think they were trying to say something like cutaneous lymphoma but couldn't remember it. I have never heard of this so may I ask more about it?? Cutaneous t-cell lymphona is probably what they meant. Excerpt: Irregularly shaped red patches (plaques) form. Any part of the body may be affected, but the buttocks, skin folds, and face are particularly common places. There may be permanent hair loss from the affected areas if the plaques are left untreated. If it's this then those patches may not be ringworm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikespooches Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I assume the vet has done bloods. They have spent a lot of money on tests and feel that the vet is jsut not doing his job well and jsut wanting more money again and again. If it is this condition is that a death sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Have they considered asking the breeder? The breeder may know - or may not, but most breeders have a wide network of other breeders some of whom may have experience with the problem. I would also consider taking the dog to a GOOD holistic vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes, take the dog to another vet. Get copies of the blood test results from the current vet. No vet should have a problem with that. The first time I got asked why I wanted copies of particular tests, I just stared at the vet and said that it was my dog, I paid for the blood tests and was entitled to a copy of the results. They should receive as many copies of results as there were tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Here is a link to Canine Candida, there are volumes of sites that address the problem........It is the reason for most dogs problems, but is never diagnosed or correctly treated.......Caused by commercial diet & allergies, sometimes antibiotic therapy etc can trigger, due to messing with the natural immune system...... The only way you will treat it properly is through a Holistic Vet..mainstream Vets will only treat the symptoms & it will ease for a while only to return.....mistakenly diagnosed as "allergy"....affects mobilty, joints & basically the entire dog..... Ringworm can be a symptom! Article on Canine Candida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikespooches Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 (edited) Yes, take the dog to another vet. Get copies of the blood test results from the current vet. No vet should have a problem with that. The first time I got asked why I wanted copies of particular tests, I just stared at the vet and said that it was my dog, I paid for the blood tests and was entitled to a copy of the results. They should receive as many copies of results as there were tests. Sadly I saw this dog today and she is a mess. The owners are distraught and they are going back to the vet to have her PTS. It has cost a lot of money and the children are in distress and so is the dog. Sadly they cannot contact the breeder as she was purchased from a pet shop. They didn't know the pitfalls but they do now. We do know where the dog came from and she is a breeder in Hay. At first they were hesitant to contemplate getting another but I recommended they did but only directly from a reputable breeder. This advice they are going to take thankfully. Edited November 3, 2008 by pikespooches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Probably the best option- a suffering dog/distraught kids and not much money... Poor people Hopefully their next one will be healthy and happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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