RubyStar Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) Whoops double post. Edited November 1, 2008 by Ruby81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) Down at the park - 9.1 seconds. ETA: He is having an off with the pixies day... Edited November 1, 2008 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraNik Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Thought I'd give this a shot with my guys!! Sounded like an interesting exercise!! Jedi - 7 months old, Keeshond. Clicker trained with toy and food rewards. Working on drive training now. Ahsoka - 15 weeks old, Finnish Lapphund. Clicker trained with food and toy rewards. Jedi = 16 seconds Ahsoka = 7 seconds (not bad for a baby puppy!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesomil Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 (edited) Very interesting. Rottweiler - 18 months old - 35 seconds (have been working alot on focus lately). Has been clicker trained, food rewards. Formal obedience. Kelpie - 4 years - 43 seconds. Trained sheepdog and has done a bit of formal obedience with toy reward. Kelpie - 2 years - 0.5 seconds. Trained for sheepwork only, no obedience. Tried again with reward. Rotty - 20 seconds, then started offering different behaviours because she wasnt getting the food. Kelpie - 60 seconds then I stopped. He got into a trance with his paw off the ground. He would have looked at me forever to get the toy. Kelpie - split second glance. Edited November 1, 2008 by jesomil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 1 yo Border Collie, no treats - 40 secs. Postive trained with food, clicker & marker word. Will try with food tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Bondi got 13 seconds- and then the builder across the road dropped something and made a big noise so she thought that was more important than me Bondi is a 5 year old Boxer- clicker trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) 40 secs with food on me! So the same. If it helps your research Ptolomy I would say that even though I train with food that my girl is more pack driven then anything else. If I spoke to her and asked her to watch then she would just go on and on watching. Edited November 2, 2008 by JulesP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbbb Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) Flame - 4 year old dobermann with show training. Done a bit of clicker training, a bit of drive training, no formal obedience. Flame has been taught the 'watch' command, but not for an extended period of time. She really has no idea how to heel or what the start of an excercise is. Rumour - 5 month old dobermann. No training at all except a little bit for the ring - ie she knows how to gait on a lead and how to stand. She does not know much at all (I am very slack!). Flame - 27 seconds without food. At that point she walked to the front of me, barked, then dropped, then sat again, all still looking at me, trying to work out what I wanted! Rumour - 2 seconds without food. 6 seconds with food before she decided that spinning sounded fun! Rumour has the attention span of a gnat! EFS Edited November 2, 2008 by jbbb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpley Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Stafford 5mths old - 52 secs Stafford 5yrs old - 34 secs (baby cried and she looked away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) I don't normally get my dogs to sit at heel so I put Jarrah in a stand in front which is our start position, I gave up at 60 seconds without food. I think most people who have seen him dancing can verify that he has pretty good focus. He is a kelpiexBC, 2years 10 months, clicker trained with both food & toys, did a very short stint of obedience training when we first got him mainly for his stays & recall, did herding all of last year & this year since March we have concentrated on our dancing . As for with a food or toy - I don't have enough time left in my life to wait for him to break focus . Havent tried the other dogs but I can tell you Whisper would be pretty good (between 30 seconds & 1 min) & Jonty would be lucky to get to 3 seconds - with or without food ;) . ETA - at our last competition at the Royal in August we had to wait with him standing in front of me for over 40 seconds because they were having trouble with our music. Even with the huge crowd, people, kids, other dogs, strange smells & noise he never took his eyes off me the whole time . Edited November 2, 2008 by MrsD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobblyness Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Awesome MrsD and Jarrah, I love seeing dogs have focus on their handlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) I just want to put this video up as its related to focus. Here is my 7 month old little BC girl doing some circle heelwork for a friend this afternoon. Her focus is outstanding and she is such a joy to work. She will give the same level of focus whether you have food, a toy or nothing. She has been totally positively trained since she arrived at 9 weeks and as a consequence loves her work. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Tdox8RcebfQ ETA. I don't usually reward as frequently as my friend was today but still she has such lovely work I had to show it off. Edited November 2, 2008 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seita Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't own a stop watch but I've been training for this (among other stuff) and I'm fairly confident that she'd give me a good long minute or more but would only break eye contact for a moment before looking at me again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) Completely OT but seita what program did you use for your sig? I am in love with those frames, I keep meaning to ask you lol ETA thanks Edited November 3, 2008 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I had T bone watch me for about ten seconds before he started whining and within 5 seconds he was pawing the air and then jumped on me. He was looking at me the whole time He is nearly 6 and has had 18 months of obedience training when he was younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Lestat, 3 seconds He is a 3 and a half year old Lab with no formal training, always trained with treats and praise. Mistral 18 seconds. Almost 8 month old Samoyed, formally training with clicker, praise and treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natsu chan Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 We tried this, this morning with my girl not with eye contact because I don't do that but for attention. Without her cue word 33 seconds, but I thought that was a bit unfair really as I always use a cue word. So with her cue word 62, then I released her as she was starting to tremble with anticipation, poor girl. She's a 4 year old collie and we do trial but only at CCD level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Thanks to everybody for giving this a go - maybe I need to post a few more obedience challenges fo us all to have a go at My theory was that a clicker/food trained dog wouldn't do as well with this exercise because they are encouraged to offer behaviours and to have to sit still and pay attention without a cue word would be really hard for them. Looking at the results the dogs who had the longest attention seem to be clicker/food rewarded - which blows my theory out of the water So my new theory is that........ Tollers don't do well sitting paying attention without food or a cue word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cala Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 She has CCD. CD and has just given me a complete minute, no food used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I food/clicker train but I don't do much (any) shaping Ptolomy. Am too impatient for that!!! Perhaps you need to ask people if they do shaping? Focus is the first thing I teach though. And border collies like to stare! During a 3 min stay Poppy's eyes don't leave me unless I look away first. She does also look at me if I am not looking at her (for DD). Yep good challenge Ptolomy! I was narky because dog school wasn't on because of the Melb Cup and this entertained me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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