MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) Long time ago when was was still training with K9 Force, and was thinking about organisisng a club, he offered that he would come to a session for free. Perhaps you can guys ask him. I probably would be able to organise an istructor form my ob club and I know couple of people that are brilliant trainers and could on occasion come. Hey Pax moved to Sydney, lets kidnapp her for a day! Re official use of grounds - I have rang in the past Rockdale, Cantenburry, Kogarah and Hustville councils. I was asking for grounds with lights on a week night. Only Hurstville council was able to offer me one but it was near a main road and it cost nearly $2000 a year. All other gorunds were booked out. I know that one flyball club has been looking for grounds for ages, unsucessfully. So when it comes to getting together and doing some activities I suggest that we do this privatelly with no permission, fees, insurance etc. Edited October 15, 2008 by Monelite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 What do you mean by "I naver had a class as such in mind"? Do you mean the obedience stuff I proposed? I meant I never envisage a class of people doing the same excercises - like a standard clubs do. I see people getting their dog out and if need be all other dogs are locked up or selected dogs out and people helping each other, spoting, exchanging ideas. If some want to do group stays they do a group stay. But hey Ruthless is the president, she might have other ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 What do you mean by "I naver had a class as such in mind"? Do you mean the obedience stuff I proposed? I meant I never envisage a class of people doing the same excercises - like a standard clubs do. I see people getting their dog out and if need be all other dogs are locked up or selected dogs out and people helping each other, spoting, exchanging ideas. If some want to do group stays they do a group stay. But hey Ruthless is the president, she might have other ideas! ;) we are totally on the same page I hope Ruthless is too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJack Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 And there is a flyball club I think they train in Tempe you will have to ask Marylin with the death scotish terrier at the Peakhurst club she does flyball at that other club. The Flyball you are talking about is St George Flyball, we train in Peakhurst (tried Tempe, too much hassle.) (Her name is Marion and its a 'deaf' scottie.) You can access club details from www flyball.org.au or PM me for details. Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Last time I ahve asked Marion and told her that myself and few people are looking for some grounds she told me that the grounds they use are school and the lights are "borrowed" from a factory next door. She adviced that we wouldnt be able to join them as it was a privatelly organised thing. But maybe things changed, I will see her on Saturday so I can ask again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Her name is Marion and its a 'deaf' scottie. ;) I think you need someone to proofread your posts Monika Hi Jo You'll see me at flyball eventually. Just need to get the obedience rock solid first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 What do you mean by "I naver had a class as such in mind"? Do you mean the obedience stuff I proposed? I meant I never envisage a class of people doing the same excercises - like a standard clubs do. I see people getting their dog out and if need be all other dogs are locked up or selected dogs out and people helping each other, spoting, exchanging ideas. If some want to do group stays they do a group stay. But hey Ruthless is the president, she might have other ideas! ;) we are totally on the same page I hope Ruthless is too I want to be doing stuff the whole time I'm there, not like Sch. where we only do short stints on the field. I don't want to learn stuff and take it away to perfect in my own time, cause we both know I won't Maybe I'm not on the same page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ell&diesel Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Don't worry ruthless, I'll join you. You can do all the training and I'll watch you and wonder how on earth my backflipping-whirling-dervish-demon-dog-from-hell manages to never learn a single thing I teach her. Maybe afterwards I'll try to get her to display some sort of "heel" for a distance of more than 2 feet while you die of laughter and I die of embarassment. And then after we've both died, Trooper will eat some of my corpse and then run away to find some other unsuspecting owner. Sounds heaps fun, count me in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee lee Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'll work with you too Ruth!! ;) Elle&Diesel sounds like we can be the team dunces together! Seriously- I presume we are all talking about practising and co-operative learning? More of an organic process to develop the skills we already have? 7pm sounds do-able to me BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) I want to be doing stuff the whole time I'm there, not like Sch. where we only do short stints on the field. I don't want to learn stuff and take it away to perfect in my own time, cause we both know I won't Maybe I'm not on the same page ;) I had in mind something between sch and ob club. Ruthless out of all the people on this list that I know YOU should know that when you train you should stage the distractions!! If you dont and you teach something than go to proof without the dog going through the training phase you end up over correcting, frustrated and your dog doesnt progress as fast as it could, if ever. If you were teaching a send away (lets say) you would ask for 50 off lead dogs during your first session, would you??? If I was to practice off lead stuff and you were doing off lead stuff with Trixie I guarantee you that I would put my dog away at this stage. Baby steps ruthless. And if I don't want to learn stuff and take it away to perfect in my own time, you will never progress to the level you want to progress. Edited October 15, 2008 by Monelite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Her name is Marion and its a 'deaf' scottie. I think you need someone to proofread your posts Monika Hey it took me years to distinguish beteen prey and pray. Give it time and I will know whats death v's deaf ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 I had in mind something between sch and ob club.Ruthless out of all the people on this list that I know YOU should know that when you train you should stage the distractions!! If you dont and you teach something than go to proof without the dog going through the training phase you end up over correcting, frustrated and your dog doesnt progress as fast as it could, if ever. If you were teaching a send away (lets say) you would ask for 50 off lead dogs during your first session, would you??? If I was to practice off lead stuff and you were doing off lead stuff with Trixie I guarantee you that I would put my dog away at this stage. I get that, but I think it's important for there to be a certain amount of onlead socialisation at our "club", that's another reason I don't want it all to be one dog on the field type of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) I dont have a problem socialising my dog, providing its in a controlled envioronment and all are on the same page when it comes to what and how we do it. If something is not to my liking I also dont have a problem removing my dog from the situation. As an example I can tell you now that if my friend with the malinois would join us I wont be socialising Divani with her dog. She is petrified of him, why put her in that position? Chopper and Angel are fine for Divani not sure about Trixie. And if Im not sure I would either set up very controlled situations or not participate at all in that part. As I said before those that need to socialise the dogs with countless other dogs need to be aware that they might potentially stuff someones perfectly good dog in the process, if things are not organised properly. Edited October 15, 2008 by Monelite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ok, socialising was possibly the wrong word. I'm talking about doing some exercises onlead in the same vicinity. Much like ob club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dont have a problem with that at all, and if I will I can choose just not to participate. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hey, do you guys want to check the grounds out today? I can be there at 6.30pm, possibly even earlier so we would get the daylight and would see where are the possible lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Oh and if you want a non ractive dog to be there for therapy for some other ones, contact Stevie and Jodie to bring Stevie with her. That is one therapy dog!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hey, do you guys want to check the grounds out today?I can be there at 6.30pm, possibly even earlier so we would get the daylight and would see where are the possible lights. Maybe, I couldn't get there before 6.30 though. OH has had a relapse, so I'll check how he's feeling and see if doing the grocery shopping is that important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Let me know, I have to be back home at 8-8.30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I'd have to check and see how far that is from me. I would be interested in obedience, tracking with Diesel and agility with Kaos. I have two jumps, a tunnel and weaves. Am getting a seesaw for xmas but no idea how I would move that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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