Colliewood Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Hi everyone, Have been reading the thread about Cert iii Behaviour and Training Course offered by NDTF. It seems quite good. What else is out there? What else have others done? Would love your thoughts and opinions on NDTF and others. I am in Sydney. Many Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I did the NDTF course in 2000, it has changed a lot since then. I am currently looking to upgrade my certification to Cert III. What I liked about NDTF is that it discusses all training methods, and that there are guest lecturers in all fields of dog training including scent detection, behaviour, security etc so you get to learn about the different things you can train dogs to do, and how they do it. There is also Delta, which teaches positive reinforcement. I don't know if they have guest lecturers? You'll have to ask someone whose done that course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 You're welcome to PM me if you have particular questions on the Cert IV in Companion Animal Services. I'm just finishing it off now. General info is here. Delta is considering a huge revamp in the way they offer the course though, so requirements might be different next year, but the content and lecturers look to be staying the same. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessca Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Cengage / Thompson offer a training course, i dont know anything about it though, sorry. im doing the NDTF course and thats pretty good. im also looking into the Delta society's course but i've been told its really expensive. good luck with your search, keep us all updated, please, i am interested to find out about any others. Cheers,Jess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalandLibby Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 CASI have a range of online courses. I have huge respect for James O'Heare who founded that college. I haven't started yet (saving) but can't wait to start my Dip. ADBS. http://www.casinstitute.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I would really like to do the Diploma as well, maybe down the track a bit. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I have just been sent the details on the new Delta course.It's apparently cheaper than it has previously cost by a few hundred dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Are they still holding the residentials? Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Are they still holding the residentials?Mel. You have to now go to a 2 day seminar to deceide if you'd like to go further ($350)and than course fees in total will be less than previous years due to the reduction in the number of residentials and the fact that the live in component is no longer required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I wouldnt touch delta I am doing NDTF, so far it all seems good, finishing an assessment today, and have another due by november, workload isnt too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poocow Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 CASI have a range of online courses. I have huge respect for James O'Heare who founded that college. I haven't started yet (saving) but can't wait to start my Dip. ADBS. http://www.casinstitute.com/ Wow that looks great, I will definitely look into that in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I wouldnt touch delta How come TB????? I'm doing the Delta course at the mo, and loving it.......what is it that put you off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Have had a few huge fights with them, i also signed up to do the course, but glad i found the truth and left, i wont go into detail on the forum, but it is one group i would never touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Have had a few huge fights with them, i also signed up to do the course, but glad i found the truth and left, i wont go into detail on the forum, but it is one group i would never touch Would you have any objections to PMing me??? Not out to pick a fight, but would like to hear your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I just sent you a pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalandLibby Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) About Delta... You have to now go to a 2 day seminar to deceide if you'd like to go further ($350)and than course fees in total will be less than previous years due to the reduction in the number of residentials and the fact that the live in component is no longer required.I'm really glad I did the Delta course, but I'm really happy if they've stopped having dogs attending residentials. Edited October 6, 2008 by WalandLibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) ... I'm really happy if they've stopped having dogs attending residentials. What are the "residentials" about, and why is it good if they've stopped dogs attending? I did the NDTF course moons ago, not the Delta, so am unfamiliar with Delta's terminology or precisely how they work (although I have some idea from things I have heard from others). Just curious. Edited October 6, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalandLibby Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) What are the "residentials" about, and why is it good if they've stopped dogs attending?I did the NDTF course moons ago, not the Delta, so am unfamiliar with Delta's terminology or precisely how they work (although I have some idea from things I have heard from others). Just curious. We went to stay for 2 blocks of 5 days at a uni campus during a uni holiday, and most of us took our dogs. Dogs needed to be over 1yr, healthy, well-trained etc, but I still think it was a pretty awful experience for lots of them - flying, a bus trip, living in student accomodation, being in such a large group of other dogs, being crated etc. I still feel guilty that I took Wal, he was very stressed. And my need to concentrate on him distracted me a lot from learning what was being taught and from networking. Edited October 6, 2008 by WalandLibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the explanation, WL. This is similar to the NDTF distance learning, it seems, as the students for that do a couple of 2 week block practical learning as well. They just don't call it "residentials". I understand they can bring their own dogs too and I can see for some that is an advantage as they might not have the luxury of having someone mind their dogs for them whilst down here in Melbourne. Regardless of the possible stress factors - and of course that would be dependent on the dog and its earlier experiences/socialisation etc as some may not be phased at all by the process and might even be the type who stress more in the absence of their owners, I think it is good for students to take the opportunity to gain as much hands on experience with different dogs rather than with the ones they know. It is an opportunity that doesn't come along too often. I also agree with you that having your own dog with you can prove a distraction away from your own learning. I have found that when I go to workshops/seminars, although I enjoy my dog to be with me, I concentrate far less on the content. Edited October 6, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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