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Homeopaths And Parvo

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I think regardless of whether or not homeopathy can or can not be used to treat Parvo, one thing that sprang to my mind is that boarding kennel licenses require that animals be vaccinated before entering your facility. I'm not sure what your laws are like in WA but my license states that I must keep records details of vaccination of all boarders for a period 7 years.

Yep I totally agree.

As for whether or not homoeopaths can cure disease - no they cant. Homoeo-immunisation isnt curing a disease anyway.

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He did imply that puppies who had come down with parvo were treated homeopathically and got better, apparently without IV support.

Either the pup never had Parvo in the first place... or he is full of crap. Supportive fluid therapy is the basis of any disease that causes gastro.

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Homeopathy = quackery

IMO of course.

No it's not, old chap. It's just most unfortunate that there are way too many 5 second experts who crap on with their oogabooga tree hugging hippy shit that homoeopathy 'cures' disease and modern medicine kills people. I'm not sure what cereal box their shingle fell out of.

A good homoeopath is worth their weight in arsenic. :laugh:

And Fiona - no it's not semantics at all. It's the cornerstone of Homoeopathy!

Totally irrelevant so back to the OP - any update?

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Homeopathy = quackery

IMO of course.

No it's not, old chap. It's just most unfortunate that there are way too many 5 second experts who crap on with their oogabooga tree hugging hippy shit that homoeopathy 'cures' disease and modern medicine kills people. I'm not sure what cereal box their shingle fell out of.

A good homoeopath is worth their weight in arsenic. :laugh:

And Fiona - no it's not semantics at all. It's the cornerstone of Homoeopathy!

Totally irrelevant so back to the OP - any update?

What do you make of the claim by scientists that there is NO active ingredient in a 30C solution?

Do you subscribe the the 'memory' theory?

Why not just drink tap water - it's got memory too?

From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/nov/16/sciencenews.g2

The 'science' behind homeopathy

Homeopathic remedies are made by taking an ingredient, such as arsenic, and diluting it down so far that there is not a single molecule left in the dose that you get. The ingredients are selected on the basis of like cures like, so that a substance that causes sweating at normal doses, for example, would be used to treat sweating.

Many people confuse homeopathy with herbalism and do not realise just how far homeopathic remedies are diluted. The typical dilution is called "30C": this means that the original substance has been diluted by 1 drop in 100, 30 times. On the Society of Homeopaths site, in their "What is homeopathy?" section, they say that "30C contains less than 1 part per million of the original substance."

This is an understatement: a 30C homeopathic preparation is a dilution of 1 in 10030, or rather 1 in 1060, which means a 1 followed by 60 zeroes, or - let's be absolutely clear - a dilution of 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000.

To phrase that in the Society of Homeopaths' terms, we should say: "30C contains less than one part per million million million million million million million million million million of the original substance."

At a homeopathic dilution of 100C, which they sell routinely, and which homeopaths claim is even more powerful than 30C, the treating substance is diluted by more than the total number of atoms in the universe. Homeopathy was invented before we knew what atoms were, or how many there are, or how big they are. It has not changed its belief system in light of this information.

How can an almost infinitely dilute solution cure anything? Most homeopaths claim that water has "a memory". They are unclear what this would look like, and homeopaths' experiments claiming to demonstrate it are frequently bizarre. As a brief illustration, American magician and debunker James Randi has for many years had a $1m prize on offer for anyone who can demonstrate paranormal abilities. He has made it clear that this cheque would go to someone who can reliably distinguish a homeopathic dilution from water. His money remains unclaimed.

Many homeopaths also claim they can transmit homeopathic remedies over the internet, in CDs, down the telephone, through a computer, or in a piece of music. Peter Chappell, whose work will feature at a conference organised by the Society of Homeopaths next month, makes dramatic claims about his ability to solve the Aids epidemic using his own homeopathic pills called "PC Aids", and his specially encoded music. "Right now," he says, "Aids in Africa could be significantly ameliorated by a simple tune played on the radio."

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What do you make of the claim by scientists that there is NO active ingredient in a 30C solution?

I spent quite a few years making homoeopathics, Luke, so I think it's a bit unfair if I answer that - yes I agree with those scientists. There's even less than that in the most powerful of homoeopathics which is the constitutional remedies.

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What do you make of the claim by scientists that there is NO active ingredient in a 30C solution?

I spent quite a few years making homoeopathics, Luke, so I think it's a bit unfair if I answer that - yes I agree with those scientists. There's even less than that in the most powerful of homoeopathics which is the constitutional remedies.

hmmm....

Even less than none?

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hmmm....

Even less than none?

Freaky isnt it :laugh: You'd be even more freaked out if you saw how the remedies are made :)

I'm not taking the mickey out of Homoeopathics. I'm a firm believer in homoeo-immunisation but only in the hands of a DECENT PRACTITIONER.

Oops sorry...didnt mean to yell.

I also would not rely on it for immunising dogs in commercial boarding kennels.

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What do you make of the claim by scientists that there is NO active ingredient in a 30C solution?

Do you subscribe the the 'memory' theory?

Why not just drink tap water - it's got memory too?

Have a look at this link - explains a few things :laugh:

http://www.biogetica.com/waterhasmemory1.html

not convinced

If the more dilute the concentration, the more powerful the substance, wouldn't starting with plain tap water and NOT starting with any active ingredient produce a more powerful substance?

I'm off to walk the dog.

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If the more dilute the concentration, the more powerful the substance, wouldn't starting with plain tap water and NOT starting with any active ingredient produce a more powerful substance?

Only if it's in a coloured bottle under a blue moon :laugh:

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