Dame Aussie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I just have a question re vaccinations. There are loads of threads regarding yearly boosters but this is in regard to a new pup. When we got our pup she had been vaccinated (C3) at 8 weeks and the breeders told us that they only ever give their dogs one vaccination at 8 weeks, had never had problems, and advised we do the same. This was new to me as in the past we'd had our dogs vaccinated as the vet instructed 3 times as a pup and then every 1-2 years. We wanted to take our pup to pre school so we had to get another vaccination (C5) which we got just after we picked her up at 11 weeks. My question is this...should we go with what the vet says and get her another shot at around 16 weeks or are we safe to taker her out in public now - 2 weeks after her second shot. There is so much conflicting information. I know all about diseases such as parvo (I work at a shelter) and am aware of how hardy it is and also how easy it is for pups to catch it. I want to do what's best for her and am happy to keep her at home for as long as I need to but I also don't want to miss opportunities at this important age to socialise her. What is everyone's experience?? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Jean Dodds recommends that puppies have one shot before 12 weeks, and 1 shot after, preferably 4 weeks apart. Personally, I'd have a final one, to make sure that atleast one has been had after 12weeks - and do it 4 weeks from the previous one. Seeing you work at a shelter I'd say your pup is more at risk because of the contact you have with shelter dogs. Once you're done with the puppy shots, you can then do titre testing to make sure the dog as adequate immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public...... The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periau Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I just have a question re vaccinations. There are loads of threads regarding yearly boosters but this is in regard to a new pup. When we got our pup she had been vaccinated (C3) at 8 weeks and the breeders told us that they only ever give their dogs one vaccination at 8 weeks, had never had problems, and advised we do the same. This was new to me as in the past we'd had our dogs vaccinated as the vet instructed 3 times as a pup and then every 1-2 years.We wanted to take our pup to pre school so we had to get another vaccination (C5) which we got just after we picked her up at 11 weeks. My question is this...should we go with what the vet says and get her another shot at around 16 weeks or are we safe to taker her out in public now - 2 weeks after her second shot. There is so much conflicting information. I know all about diseases such as parvo (I work at a shelter) and am aware of how hardy it is and also how easy it is for pups to catch it. I want to do what's best for her and am happy to keep her at home for as long as I need to but I also don't want to miss opportunities at this important age to socialise her. What is everyone's experience?? Thanks! You need to have the vaccination at 17 weeks because you had the one at 11 weeks which is too early. The second should after the turn 13 weeks. The reason is because it does not work effectivley so only partially immunized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Baggins Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have Cavandra I assume this was a typo you ment "the more shots the more immunity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 8 weeks still doesn't guarantee immunity....I would still give one more puppy shot at 12-14 weeks. My pup had a parvac at 10 weeks but had no immunity at 12 weeks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? I'd stick to C3 and give one more shot at 12 weeks. You only need KC shot if you're going into kennels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Mine was C3 at 6-7 weeks (or thereabouts LOL) any way before she came home from the breeder. I was going to get one done at 12 weeks but after having read on here and confirmed by the breeder I held off till she was 13 weeks and opted not to get a 16 week shot. I did get her done with C4 at 13 weeks as the discussion with my vet was that she could do C3 but the extra component covered by the C4 was the more serious kennel cough component and considering she is to do a performance dog the consensus was to get it. The advice against the C5 was that the KC component covered by that was easily enough treatable where as the C4 component was not. ETA. And my puppy was selectively taken out from the time she was here at 9 weeks and yes that included taking calculated risks about allowing her to interact and socialise with dogs and people. Edited August 28, 2008 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have Cavandra I assume this was a typo you ment "the more shots the more immunity." I am going to take a wild guess :D and say that she wrote exactly what she meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliewood Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Seeing you work at a shelter I'd say your pup is more at risk because of the contact you have with shelter dogs. This is running along the lines of something I have been thinking about lately. To my understanding and I admit I should double check it as I am having a vague moment but I am sure I will get the right info from you guys. that the diseases pups are vaccinated against are not zoonotic meaning they are not transferred to humans. Whilst that may be the case, can we still somehow transfer them to unvaccinated puppies? This brings me to a few questions; How is this done? Clothing, shoes etc. Is it able to be kept alive this way?? For you groomers out there, how many of you insist on seeing a vaccination certificate before you take on a new dog, whether that is mobile or salon? I have been thinking about this as I am getting a new pup in around 4 weeks and whilst it will not go into the trailer until all shots are done and dusted I still could be a carrier in some way all be it a small risk. ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Parvo can be transferred via shoes etc. So yes, is a risk for a totally unvacced puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have Cavandra I assume this was a typo you ment "the more shots the more immunity." No it is not a typo. The more you vaccinate a dog, as in, if you vaccinate it yearly the dog is less immune each year, as the immune system is stressed & compromised from unnecessay vaccines....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? Yes you will need 2 shots as your puppy is not currently vaccinated........There is no immunity under 8 weeks of age. Doing them at 6 weeks is the olden days method, pre scientific studies........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony mazzeri Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 So if the first shot at 8 weeks is a C3 and the second booster one at 12-14 weeks is C5, how come the extra component of the C5 shot doesn't need a booster? Or does it, at 16-18 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periau Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? I'd stick to C3 and give one more shot at 12 weeks. You only need KC shot if you're going into kennels. So as she will be a show dog a C3 is sufficient? From what i just read om some other threads it would be better to get a C5 or C6- as Kennel Cough like most things is going around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? I'd stick to C3 and give one more shot at 12 weeks. You only need KC shot if you're going into kennels. So as she will be a show dog a C3 is sufficient? From what i just read om some other threads it would be better to get a C5 or C6- as Kennel Cough like most things is going around. And I've seen many show dogs get it anyway... Better to build a strong immune system so that if they do catch it, they get over it quickly. I show mine and he's not vacc with KC and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periau Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Puppies vaccinated at 6 weeks have zero immunity.....This is why the breeder has done it at 8 weeks, as puppies 8 weeks or older will be immune! 3 days after a shot is enough isolation before going in public......The more shots you give the less immunity your dog will have My new pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks then i have been told needs another 2 shots? However when i get her 2nd shot done ive been told to make it a c5 then she wont need another- is this correct? I'd stick to C3 and give one more shot at 12 weeks. You only need KC shot if you're going into kennels. So as she will be a show dog a C3 is sufficient? From what i just read om some other threads it would be better to get a C5 or C6- as Kennel Cough like most things is going around. And I've seen many show dogs get it anyway... Better to build a strong immune system so that if they do catch it, they get over it quickly. I show mine and he's not vacc with KC and never will. Thanks Tess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I compromised on my performance dog and went for the C4 as the second puppy shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 No it is not a typo. The more you vaccinate a dog, as in, if you vaccinate it yearly the dog is less immune each year, as the immune system is stressed & compromised from unnecessary vaccines....... One vaccination before twelve weeks and one after. Then titre if you wish to. The titre is done to prove that the dog has antibodies in the system, the quantity of the antibodies is of no consequence. When it is proved that the dog carries antibodies NO further vaccination is required. If further vaccination is given it will suppress the dogs immune system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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