cowanbree Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 As above I was wondering if anyone has a dog that is a celiac? If so how was your dog diagnosed and what symptoms did it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 My OH and his mother both have it. Gluten intolorance. I have switched most wheat base things in the house to rice based and this seems to help with the stomach cramping and the reflux. He is lactose int as well which doesn't help as he loves icecream. I would try him on a rice based rather than wheat based kibble maybe. We use Coprice and give cooked veggies as well (mainly because they like them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemstone Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 My OH and his mother both have it. Gluten intolorance. I have switched most wheat base things in the house to rice based and this seems to help with the stomach cramping and the reflux. He is lactose int as well which doesn't help as he loves icecream. I would try him on a rice based rather than wheat based kibble maybe. We use Coprice and give cooked veggies as well (mainly because they like them) Know how you feel my husband is gluten and lactose intolerant - makes eating out a nightmare!! Cowanbree - dont have dog knowledge of it but you would definitely have to cut out anything with wheat. Wheat seems to be in everything - even foods you wouldnt think would contain it so you'll have to read labels carefully. There is a human celiac website which has lots of info on what to look for in labels (wheat products can be called a lot of different names) Has your dog been diagnosed with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) I would think it would be easy to manage in a dog- raw feeding- with no gluten or milk derivative -containing products.... I wouldn't think it is very common.. is it? Edited August 11, 2008 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 My OH and his mother both have it. Gluten intolorance. I have switched most wheat base things in the house to rice based and this seems to help with the stomach cramping and the reflux. He is lactose int as well which doesn't help as he loves icecream. I would try him on a rice based rather than wheat based kibble maybe. We use Coprice and give cooked veggies as well (mainly because they like them) Know how you feel my husband is gluten and lactose intolerant - makes eating out a nightmare!! Cowanbree - dont have dog knowledge of it but you would definitely have to cut out anything with wheat. Wheat seems to be in everything - even foods you wouldnt think would contain it so you'll have to read labels carefully. There is a human celiac website which has lots of info on what to look for in labels (wheat products can be called a lot of different names) Has your dog been diagnosed with it? A little bit off topic, but I am clearing my hubbies up with the "Eat right for your type diet" what do you know? Wheat/gluten and lactose are on his avoid list!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Cowanbree - I doubt Angs has coeliacs but Angs used to have a rather bad farting problem and always had soft stools and was prone to getting the runs. I switched him from Eagle Pack to Orijien and some barf and the farting has 99% gone!! Stools are firm and less frequent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 I have a problem dog, now 9 yrs who I have had some very serious issues with over the last 3-4 years, itchy, hair loss, upset tummy, foul stools, huge sores, the list goes on. At times he has been a very sick dog. I have tried everything, visited specialists and got a dodgy diagnoses of IBS which to my mind is a total cop out. Tried the diet thing right down to a vegetarian diet and nothing worked so I decided to manage his condition with antibiotics and pred. Not ideal but I felt I had no real choice. Then about 8mths ago I changed the dogs diet to Nutro which contains only lamb and rice and slowly Mac improved. He grew a coat and people kept asking what I had done. I figured he was just having a good spell until I changed the diet again and all of a sudden he is a mess again. As far as I can tell the only thing I haven’t tried is gluten free and apparently Nutro is gluten free. I strongly suspect Mac is a celiac but my vet tells me there is no test to prove it. Googling tells me there is a blood test so I was really wanting more information to go back to my vet with. He isn't a great fan of google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Yes I get told off for googling things too! Try Orijien?? I really cannot emphasis enough the change I have had in Angs - his coat has improved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemstone Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I have a problem dog, now 9 yrs who I have had some very serious issues with over the last 3-4 years, itchy, hair loss, upset tummy, foul stools, huge sores, the list goes on. At times he has been a very sick dog. I have tried everything, visited specialists and got a dodgy diagnoses of IBS which to my mind is a total cop out. Tried the diet thing right down to a vegetarian diet and nothing worked so I decided to manage his condition with antibiotics and pred. Not ideal but I felt I had no real choice. Then about 8mths ago I changed the dogs diet to Nutro which contains only lamb and rice and slowly Mac improved. He grew a coat and people kept asking what I had done. I figured he was just having a good spell until I changed the diet again and all of a sudden he is a mess again. As far as I can tell the only thing I haven’t tried is gluten free and apparently Nutro is gluten free. I strongly suspect Mac is a celiac but my vet tells me there is no test to prove it. Googling tells me there is a blood test so I was really wanting more information to go back to my vet with. He isn't a great fan of google When you fed him gluten free he did well and when you fed him gluten he got bad again? That alone should be enough info for your vet to listen to you. Can you print out the info you found on the test and show him.. Maybe its not common in dogs but he could still have some sort of canine equivilent?? I'd research gluten free and feed him accordingly and see how he goes good luck - hope he feels better soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Your vet surely has a duty of care to find out if Mac is intolerant to wheat, be it by blood test or allergy tests?. Re wheat intolerance: Veterinary Notes for Dog Owners. ed Trevor Turner. p 128 "some animals develop a sensitivity to certain foodstuffs, for example wheat sensitivity in Irish Setters, which impairs the absorption of all foods" Owners Guide to Dog Health, Lowell Ackerman p259 "Irish Setters have a documented hereditary defect associated with wheat- sensitive enteropathy" Do you know of Irish setter breeders who may be able to help?. They may know how a dog has been diagnosed celiac? Had a client with a Basset whose vet diagnosed (sorry dont know how) that he was celiac. The vet came to the conclusion that his wheat intolerance was caused by the fact that he was being fed Nutro which contained wheat. Doubt that the vet had ever heard about Nutro let alone knew the ingredients :rolleyes Re IBS, Inspector Rex had a Collie Rough with IBS, perhaps pm to discuss symptoms. Another product which contains NO grains, chemical preservatives, food colouring etc etc is Ziwipeak, made in NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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