cocosonni Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Oh Forgot to say..Chocolate Girl,And Yellow boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black magic Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi, Good luck with your two pups when they arrive. We got a black lab (girl) in may this year. She is the first dog I've owned so I'm not someone who can offer knowledgeable advice, but I can share some of our moments. Scout has been both a delight and rascal at times. My Partner has a 9 year old sister who loves to visit our pup. My OH and I have put alot of time into basic training with our pup, and she is doing really well with her commands, Having said that though I would never leave her alone with any child, as she can be such a goof ball at times. I think it's important to remember how strong these pups can be. for e.g. down the beach the other day our pup chased after a tumbling leaf and caused the 9 year old to face plant in the sand. This could have been a disaster had we been near a road, and I have told OH the sister is not to walk our pup as I feel this could have also been detrimental to our training. That incident could have resulted in our pup learning if I pull hard, she falls and I get to run free. The last thing I want is a dog that pulls on the lead to get where she wants. On puppy preschool, make sure you do your homework, and find a good one, even go and watch some before you choose where to go. I did two lots of puppy training with our pup, one at the local vet, I think it was run by the nurse, and the other with a delta certified trainer. The vet nurse training was good for info on ticks, fleas and general care, but I found the puppy play to be a bit like "stacks on" and a mad frenzy of puppies getting overly hyped up. My pup ended up getting a bit scared during the free play. The training I did with the delta trainer on the other hand was fantastic. I learnt so much about handling my pup and all the things I was doing wrong when asking things of her. The second training had on lead play between the pups and it was in a situation that we would face when out walking our dogs in the real world. Having doing the two lots of training and seeing the difference in them both really opened my inexperienced eyes up to how it could make or break your puppy. My pup sleeps in a crate and she seems to love it. I think it's important for them to have a place that they can escape the hectic pace of children when they want. Our 9yo sister knows she is not to touch or go near our pup when is in her crate. We want to keep it as her special place. I wish you all the best with your pups do you have any names picked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaceymegs Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi cocosonni, I was 12 years old when my parents let me get a male golden retriever and he wasn't as bad as everyones making them out to be. At 12, I had him listening to every word I said and following me around everywhere. He responded to a child training him and feeding him very well and respected me also. So with you supervising your kids im sure they will be quite adequate in caring for lab puppies. And i also have a german shepherd pup now and yes he is a terror but with the right amount of care and training they will be fine to live with. You didnt ask if you should be getting two pups you were asking about sleeping arrangements etc. So, do you want the dogs to be inside or outside dogs? If inside all their lives I would crate train from word go. If an outside dog I would be getting them outside right now. Yes it is cold but there are blankets and jackets to keep them warm. My shepherd was outside the first night i got him in a cardboard box and yeh he winged all night but the next night he was perfect not a sound out of him! anywayz hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamuzz Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Thanks Persephone.Really helpful,Interesting reading.Which I am sure will come in very handy.I really love this site,so helpful,Although some people are a touch discouraging.Oh Well everyone has THEIR!! Opinion One thing that has changed a lot since I was growing up is how much exercise puppies should have. My parents lived on a property and our dog pack averaged around 5. We never keep puppies away from the big dogs. We expected that if they were tired they would go and sleep it off (applied to both adults and puppies) It is interesting that now having two puppies is seen as having the potential to lead to rough play that can cause injuries. What happens when humans aren't around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG-DOG-LOVER Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Oh Forgot to say..Chocolate Girl,And Yellow boy Oh very cute, I'm sure they will bring you all lots of joy and happiness and lots of cuteness factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocosonni Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Thank you For the last 4 Replies It has helped to see some people actually help me with what I asked in the first place,HEHEHEHE.I also Had my first Pup at 10/11 and he was magnificant.He went to Heaven last year at the age of 16.So I have all the Faith in my 2 kids that they will have the same Loving relationship with their dogs.I am now Convinced to do crate Training.I am going to crate them in the kids rooms,I have talked at length about what that intails And as I said Before I know my Kids and I know they Will Be Great.As far as during the day when I am at work which is only 5 hrs,I am going to Get a pen and Put some of their chews and Toys in there,with Water of course.I am so Glad I have received some Positive Replies.Thank U to those who have helped me.And Names are COCO LANI for our Little Girl..And SONNI for our boy.Off to search for suitable crates now..Oh the joys,Credit card is sure going to get a workout,lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal House Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I was hoping i could get some much needed hints on how to set out the sleeping arrangements with my 2 new pups .They are pets for my 2 children ages 9,11.So of course they were hoping to have their babies sleep in the room with them.I'm not sure how that will work.I was thinking They go into The Bathroom at night and let out(backyard) in the morning when hubby gets up then goes back in til the kids get up and play and brekky then put them in the backyard with Toys until I arrive home from work at 2pm.Does that sound Ok?I have so many questions,I am determined to get it right and have 2 well mannered well behaved new members of out family.Thanks in advance I think your being a tad irresponsible and probably a little too trusting of your young children to think they will be able to manage two puppies, who will grow into very strong and energetic eating machines very quickly. Puppies bite, pee, poop, chew and require a lot of stimulation, training, exercise and socialisation. Im an adult, and I found having one pup was pretty much draining (time wise, financially and training etc) let alone two, let alone labs, who dont mature until they are 4. Will your children take them out of the crates for toilet trips every 4 hours during the night? Who will clean up their "accidents"? What will you do when you have one puppy whinging and crying during the night? Thats vaccinations, worming, heartworming, flea prevention, desexing x 2. 10 week old puppies dont go to dog obedience. Puppies need to be booked into puppy preschool, and having your kids trying to train puppies is double trouble. How will you socialise two puppies? They cant be taken in public places for walks until they are fully vaccinated, which means carrying around a heavy puppy x 2 so you can socialise the pup. Im sorry, but a reputable breeder wouldnt recomend two puppies at once (especially if they are for your kids, even with you as a parent). I see trouble, and probably 2 labs (or one of them) ending up in the pound or being rehomed because of the inevitable problems 4 - 9 months down the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocosonni Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 I would greatly appreciate it if you would point your know all nose away from my posts I don't need you on here saying those hurtful things.Funny I don't remember you having anything to do with my family Although If you did I probably would have told You to Jump a long time ago.You Know nothing(about me or Family) So dont say ANYTHING TO ME!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal House Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 You came onto a public forum asking for advice. You got it. Perhaps you wanted people to say "Oh, wonderful". But the people on here are speaking from experience, so why not try to listen to reason? If you only want to hear that it will be all rosy and wonderful, then go off into your own little world and do it, but people are actually trying to help here. You have been given advice that two Lab puppies at the same time is not a good idea!! And from your replies on here, I think your in for a tough time. You obviously know it all, so why bother asking? Good luck, with your attitude, you certainly are going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocosonni Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) No You did not give me Advice U gave me Your uninformed PERSONAL opinion Edited August 2, 2008 by cocosonni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausy.dog Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi there, good luck with your new additions.. I personally wouldn't sleep them in your children's rooms at night. They will need to be taken out in the night and I don't think even the most responsible nine and eleven year olds are going to manage that night after night. Also have you checked with your local obedience club about your children training their dogs - ours here won't allow kids under 12 due to insurance reasons which is a bit of a pain as I would also have liked my children to have the opportunity to do some of the classes. Anyway it will certainly be a busy time in your house. Best of luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocosonni Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Thanks Lizandel..I have asked if the Kids can train them And they said they were more than welcome.Actually is the same club I took my pup to 16 yrs ago,OH showing my age now,lol.I am sure with alot of work and love We will all be better off with our new additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaceymegs Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 woweeee.. lots of bickering.. haha.. If you want to do this and are prepared for it i say good on you!! The classes im taking my pup too also allows children to train and approach the other puppys in class if the owners feel the dogs are up to being handled by children. I would get your children to feed the pups. Ive found that whoever feeds them is who they are closest too, respects more and listens to more! Also gives the power to the kids over the puppies too! from what i can remember i had the most responsibility for my pup when i was younger! the 1st couple of nights he slept inside in my room and there was a few accidents through the night but no big drama! puppies are huge responsibilities but its not rocket science to own and look after one so good luck with your adorable puppies im sure they will at times frustrate the hell out of you but it doesnt last long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I would greatly appreciate it if you would point your know all nose away from my posts I don't need you on here saying those hurtful things.Funny I don't remember you having anything to do with my family Although If you did I probably would have told You to Jump a long time ago.You Know nothing(about me or Family) So dont say ANYTHING TO ME!!!! When posting on a public forum asking for advice, particularly on a forum this size, you may sometimes get replies that you do not agree with, or advice that is not what you want to hear. No You did not give me Advice U gave me Your uninformed PERSONAL opinion Caz is a well respected member here who is sharing her experience with you. No need to get narky just because you don't agree with it - that's what forums are for (sharing opinion). Good luck with your two new pups, you're going to need it with two naughty lab puppies! I hope it all works out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaceymegs Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 True but she wasnt asking for anyones opinions on having two puppies. She was simply asking about sleeping arrangements and what to do with them during the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I would be inclined to sleep them together in a crate, maybe not in the bathroom though as bathrooms can be very cold rooms in the middle of winter (but you might be in a warmer place than me!) My dogs stayed outside from when they were about 10 weeks old during the day. As long as they have a warm, dry place to sleep and shelter, water and space to play, they should be fine. Just make sure they can't be too easily seen from the street as you would not want them stolen (a very real possibility with popular breeds). If I may suggest.......as they get older, make a point of seperating them for a certain amount of time each day to "loosen" the bonds that will invariably be strong. Maybe take them on seperate walks, or have one inside and one out with someone. My two dogs are not brother and sister, and are 10 months apart but they are very attached to each other and miss each other terribly when they are not together. It makes it quite difficult to take just one dog anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I would greatly appreciate it if you would point your know all nose away from my posts I don't need you on here saying those hurtful things.Funny I don't remember you having anything to do with my family Although If you did I probably would have told You to Jump a long time ago.You Know nothing(about me or Family) So dont say ANYTHING TO ME!!!! How rude of you You came to a dog forum presumably for advice. When a post is displayed here it's open to all. Anyone who wishes to reply has that right. You don't get to dictate who can or cannot respond. It's easy to figure out those with dog knowledge and experience. They're the ones suggesting what is best for the dogs. Then there are others who are simply telling you what you want to hear, which is of little value to the dogs. This is a dog forum, not a mutual admiration society. If you don't want advice from experienced dog people then don't ask questions on a dog forum. This is not about your family, they are not of our interest or concern. It's about two puppies who will most likely bond to eachother instead of the human members of the family. The dogs will be the ones to suffer if taking on and living with two rowdy, messy, destructive puppies doesn't produce that rosy glow you are anticipating. If you think that responsibly raising and training two Labrador puppies is a walk in the park you're in for a rude awakening. Cazablanca took the time and made the effort to offer you sensible advice. As she said, 10 week old puppies don't do obedience classes. Did you not know that? Also, many obedience classes will not allow children under 12yo to handle a dog in class. I find it very unusual that a registered, code of ethics breeder would agree to sell you two pups from the litter. She may well have been breeding for 20 years but is she a registered breeder? As you will note, some ethical breeders here have stated they would not sell two puppies from a litter in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaz Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I got a lot of the same advice you are currently recieving when I posted 7 months ago that I just picked up two Staffy Pups, I made the added mistake of getting 2 females. I also bought from a registered breeder and was not advised not to take 2 pups. You will get a lot of negative advice, thats the nature of a forum. So, these are my thoughts, being someone that has been through it, there are a lot of negatives, but there are also a few positives. It will be harder work that you can imagine, seriously, you will be regretting it for the first 3-6 weeks, but it will get easier. It could get pretty expensive, double the food, double the vet bills. One of my girls has OCD and just had an operation, this alone has cost over $2500. Toilet training may be harder, especially in the first 4-5 months, they tend to learn off each other more than you. My girls did not get it until around 6 months old, they were not extremely bad for that whole time, but were not reliable. People mentioned the dogs not bonding with you, this may happen but I did not find this a problem, although the seperation anxiety between the dogs will probably become a bit of an issue. A couple of positives are we have never had any issues with night time crying. We have also not had any issues with escape attempts, they seem quite content in each others company during the day. Personally I would not do it again, I should have stuck to my original plan and got 1 pound dog and a puppy. BUT, if you choose to go ahead, and have the stamina, go for it, if you do all the right things as far as training and socialisation are concerned, I am sure it will work out great in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaz Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) Double post Edited August 2, 2008 by BigDaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) True but she wasnt asking for anyones opinions on having two puppies. She was simply asking about sleeping arrangements and what to do with them during the day! She posted about having two puppies and doing so on a public forum invites a range of comments. People aren't posting to argue with the OP for any reason other than concern for the puppies involved. ETA: It only takes a brief looking in this sub-forum to gauge how many difficulties (unexpected and expected) people have with their pups. Edited August 2, 2008 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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