Entropian Surgery For Older Dogs

[cavNrott]

Ohh his eyes roll outwards. Totally different from them rolling inwards and the hairs irritating his corneas. He is likely to have dry eye because he can't close his eyes properly.

It's his eyelids, not his eyes. If the lower lids are drooping it would mean that he has Ectropion. He's been diagnosed with Entropion so it seems the upper eyelids are the problem.

His eyes do look very irritated but the pics are not clear enough to tell.

When my girl had surgery for entropion many years ago the first surgery didn't turn out too well and had to be done again a year or so later. It never was much good even after the second surgery. The second eyelid was good and gave her no further problems.

[Miranda]

I have only had one dog with entropion and I took him to an eye specialist. You can also correct both entropion and ectropion with the use of CO2 laser surgery, but this treatment will probably only be available at an eye specialist.

[puggy_puggy]

Ohh his eyes roll outwards. Totally different from them rolling inwards and the hairs irritating his corneas. He is likely to have dry eye because he can't close his eyes properly.

It's his eyelids, not his eyes. If the lower lids are drooping it would mean that he has Ectropion. He's been diagnosed with Entropion so it seems the upper eyelids are the problem.

His eyes do look very irritated but the pics are not clear enough to tell.

When my girl had surgery for entropion many years ago the first surgery didn't turn out too well and had to be done again a year or so later. It never was much good even after the second surgery. The second eyelid was good and gave her no further problems.

:D I ment eyelids. Looks like his lower eyelids need work done to them as well.

[puggy_puggy]

I have only had one dog with entropion and I took him to an eye specialist. You can also correct both entropion and ectropion with the use of CO2 laser surgery, but this treatment will probably only be available at an eye specialist.

Is the laser used to cut away the skin to make the eye opening smaller??

[labsrule]

It's hard to see in the photo's as he is so far away but they do look sore. Personally if he has problems with his ears too, I feel it makes it lots more likely that it has a secondary inflammatory commonent. Does he have any ulceration or evidence of? Surely by 10 years old if he has had chronic entropian, he would have scarring already?

The surgery does very much sounds simple but it's a lot harder to correct if too much skin is taken out and so is quite fiddly.

I tried to unsuccessfully take some closer face shots tonight, but he keeps on squinting or closing his eyes, so gave up on trying to take any more When I was having a good close check of his eyes tonight, I noticed that in the corner of his right eye there is a small protruding growth, but the other eye is fine, no growths or obvious ulceration that my untrained eye can see. He was very good, just lying very still why I was poking and prodding around his eyes , totally different though with his ears, when I tried to rinse them .

Ohh his eyes roll outwards. Totally different from them rolling inwards and the hairs irritating his corneas. He is likely to have dry eye because he can't close his eyes properly.

It's his eyelids, not his eyes. If the lower lids are drooping it would mean that he has Ectropion. He's been diagnosed with Entropion so it seems the upper eyelids are the problem.

His eyes do look very irritated but the pics are not clear enough to tell.

When my girl had surgery for entropion many years ago the first surgery didn't turn out too well and had to be done again a year or so later. It never was much good even after the second surgery. The second eyelid was good and gave her no further problems.

I have only had one dog with entropion and I took him to an eye specialist. You can also correct both entropion and ectropion with the use of CO2 laser surgery, but this treatment will probably only be available at an eye specialist.

I actually had my Vet write down the name of the diagnosis on his card, which was Entropian as none of my other dogs had ever had this eye problem before and I wanted to do some research on it. As well as my vet mentioning that he could not guarantee that the surgery would correct the problem entirely, he also mentioned that he may need to undergo further surgery

cavNrott - your outcome was the reason I posted as this is my main concern for my boy that he undergoes this surgery at his age, and the outcome isn't successful and he may have to undergo further surgery which also may or may not be successful . It is a bit of a double edged sword, but I just can't sit by and do nothing as this irritation must be driving him mad. As they say nothing ventured, nothing gained and at least I will give him a shot at getting it corrected.

Miranda tks for info on the laser surgery, I will also investigate this further and speak further with my Vet about getting a referral to an eye specialist. I would rather pay more for a better outcome first time around as being a specialist one would hope their success rates are higher than an ordinary Vet. My 12 year old black lab boy goes in for surgery on Monday morning with removal of a lump on his leg and a growth on one of his lower eye lids, so will get his recovery out of the way first and whilst that is happening I will obtain a referral from my Vet for a Veterinary Eye Specialist for Tournie.

Thanks so much to everyone for their input, is has been a great help and very informative. :D