First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 There are many that still support the idea to much protein can be harmful for large breed puppy yet there is a great deal of research showing there is no relation to protein rather the calcium : phosphrous balance etc. I am sure some one with come a long for the link for the thread about the research into this B&B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 There was a really good thread a little while back with great info and articles - but do you think I can find it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues and Boots Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 There are many that still support the idea to much protein can be harmful for large breed puppy yet there is a great deal of research showing there is no relation to protein rather the calcium : phosphrous balance etc. I am sure some one with come a long for the link for the thread about the research into this B&B! Hmm I don't know what to think but yes that thread would be good to read does anyone have the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...hl=protein+much Oh man I can be :D sometimes, it was called the protein debate D'OH! Here it is hope it helps you! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 How much do they recommend you feed a 30kg dog per day? I feed Jyra raw and it costs us about $50/month. I think that if Origen's feeding guidelines are similar to Innova Evo's, a 13.5kg bag would probably last a month, making the cost $120/month instead of $50/month. I think I'll stick with the raw, but Origen is the only dry food that I would consider and what I would use if I HAD to switch to dry food. Considering that my parents are going to be paying for her food (and preparing it) soon, I think they'll stick with the raw too! bag quotes for that size with a less active dog 2 1/2 cups a day while an active dog gets 3 3/4 cups. I'm feeding my 2 gsd's about 1 3/4 cups plus a chicken wing or a couple of necks etc a day and they're looking great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 How much do they recommend you feed a 30kg dog per day? I feed Jyra raw and it costs us about $50/month. I think that if Origen's feeding guidelines are similar to Innova Evo's, a 13.5kg bag would probably last a month, making the cost $120/month instead of $50/month. I think I'll stick with the raw, but Origen is the only dry food that I would consider and what I would use if I HAD to switch to dry food. Considering that my parents are going to be paying for her food (and preparing it) soon, I think they'll stick with the raw too! bag quotes for that size with a less active dog 2 1/2 cups a day while an active dog gets 3 3/4 cups. I'm feeding my 2 gsd's about 1 3/4 cups plus a chicken wing or a couple of necks etc a day and they're looking great My GR is around 2 cups (some goes into his treat toys so might not make it into the gut) and a bone a day and he has actually lost a few more kilos and is nice an lean - so I am not going through a bag a mth more like almost 2 and a half mths :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poocow Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I have issues keeping weight on Darcy, during the bowl saga he lost a few kgs (he was only 10kg to start with). Toppy is such a gutz, I'll have to watch his weight if I switch food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periau Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 The dogs im feeding orijen to are a f kelpie x, 18 months, at max she weighs i think 14kgs and a lab x who is nearly 7 years and weighs about 25+kgs and could lose a few kilos for flyball! However i give him 1 cup and the kelpie x 3/4 cup maybe im feeding too little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valby Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Benson adores Orijen! I changed from EP around 4 1/2 mths ago too now and we are on our second bag for one dog (GR) and maybe just over half way through. I have him on Mega Oil, Dr Brusce Health Booster and Biotin as well during this same period of time due to incredible allergies problems where he was developing hot spot after hot spot and literally tore the skin off his head with his hind feet.His overall condition had inproved incredibly he is much more energetic - before incredibly lathergic, his coat has transformed from coarse straw like texture to soft and thick, the itching and lick is still reducing each week and his poos are fantastic. He seems like a completely different dog from 5 mths ago! I know it's not exclusively the food in our situation but I believe this combination has been what has turned Benson around from a miserable itchy boy to a dog that is really beginning to resemble a Golden Retriever again! :cool: That sounds promising!! Can I ask what the Mega oil is? An omega combo? I have a Lhasa who is a poor itchy girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues and Boots Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks for the link FTO. So does anywhere know where I can get some in Perth? I can order it online at $120 for 13.5kg not a lot for a lot of $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted July 15, 2008 Author Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks for the link FTO. So does anywhere know where I can get some in Perth? I can order it online at $120 for 13.5kg not a lot for a lot of $$$. This is the standard price for it and it is more economical as you do not need to feed as much. I understand that the position is that high protein is only bad for growing large breed dogs if it is fed in conjunction with high fat. By itself it is not necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Thanks for the link FTO. So does anywhere know where I can get some in Perth? I can order it online at $120 for 13.5kg not a lot for a lot of $$$. 'Pookinuk' sell Orijen. Postage is only $5. http://www.pookinuk.com.au/pet-products.asp?categoryID=90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Monster Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Geez I'm feeding a 43kg dog 7 cups of Eagle Pack so maybe I should look at doing the switch too... Does anywhere else other than Canine Country sell it in Brisbane??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanaussi Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Geez I'm feeding a 43kg dog 7 cups of Eagle Pack so maybe I should look at doing the switch too...Does anywhere else other than Canine Country sell it in Brisbane??? There's a shop in Caboolture which sells it but it might be too far for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Would a 7 mth old med size dog go on puppy or adult?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Would a 7 mth old med size dog go on puppy or adult?? I would feed it the puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Benson adores Orijen! :rolleyes: I changed from EP around 4 1/2 mths ago too now and we are on our second bag for one dog (GR) and maybe just over half way through. I have him on Mega Oil, Dr Brusce Health Booster and Biotin as well during this same period of time due to incredible allergies problems where he was developing hot spot after hot spot and literally tore the skin off his head with his hind feet.His overall condition had inproved incredibly he is much more energetic - before incredibly lathergic, his coat has transformed from coarse straw like texture to soft and thick, the itching and lick is still reducing each week and his poos are fantastic. He seems like a completely different dog from 5 mths ago! I know it's not exclusively the food in our situation but I believe this combination has been what has turned Benson around from a miserable itchy boy to a dog that is really beginning to resemble a Golden Retriever again! That sounds promising!! Can I ask what the Mega oil is? An omega combo? I have a Lhasa who is a poor itchy girl Ok Mega Oil is a combo of all sorts of natural oils - here is the list INGREDIENTS: Flaxseed oil Soybean seed oil Evening Primrose oil Borage oil (15ml GLA) Safflower seed oil Sunflower seed oil Sesame seed oil Pumpkin seed oil Oil ratio 2:1:1 of Omega 3, 6 and 9 it however is not cheap and my homeopathic vet said to give 50 mls a day - so we are now on 6th or 7th bottle in the last 4 to 5 mths! Geez I'm feeding a 43kg dog 7 cups of Eagle Pack so maybe I should look at doing the switch too...Does anywhere else other than Canine Country sell it in Brisbane??? There's a shop in Caboolture which sells it but it might be too far for you? Which shop in Caboolture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanaussi Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Sorry I cannot think of the name of the shop. They only sell Petfood - dry and fresh. It's in a little shopping village at a water tower just of Old Gympie Rd. Do you want the phone no or addresse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Time Puppy Owner Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Sorry I cannot think of the name of the shop. They only sell Petfood - dry and fresh. It's in a little shopping village at a water tower just of Old Gympie Rd. Do you want the phone no or addresse? If you have a phone number that would be awesome thank you, will try to goggle it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanaussi Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sorry I cannot think of the name of the shop. They only sell Petfood - dry and fresh. It's in a little shopping village at a water tower just of Old Gympie Rd. Do you want the phone no or addresse? If you have a phone number that would be awesome thank you, will try to goggle it too! His name is Garry, the shop is in Burpengary and the phone no is 3888 6863. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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