pebbles Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Mickey, 2.5yr old Miniature Pinscher, never been sick before. Sunday 2 weeks ago he wasn't himself, quiet and stretching a lot but not quite the usual 'belly ache' stretch, more a leaning forward, twisting the body, head and neck to one side, a few belly rumbles. Eating, pooing etc. OK. Took him to the Vet. Monday am.Temp. of 39.8, diagnosed with gut bug, which I queried but who am I having had dogs for 50 years to query a new young Vet? (My Vets who I had great faith in retired and sold the practice. I've been there 4 times for other dogs and haven't really been impressed) OK so Mick was given injections of Moxylan and Metacam, also sent home with a course of Moxylan, 2 daily for 10 days and Metacam, .04 for 4 days. He came good on this. I had him checked by a Chiro Vet last week, couple of muscles out but no big drama. So Moxylan finished on Friday and this am Mick is right back to the quietness and this stretching bit, even more so than when it first happened. Has anyone had anything like this? Any ideas? I can see another trip to the Vets tomorrow (or today and of course, it's got to be Sunday!) Seriously thinking of trying another Vet. wherever is a 300k round trip so any thoughts I can throw at them would be appreciated. Oh I'm gunna kill my original guys, how dare they retire!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 why the Metacam? I would be ceasing that now as 1 dose of it nearly killed my avatar girl.it is a non-sterodial anti-inflammatory and if the chiro vet found nothing wrong I would not be giving it have a look at: www.dogsadversereactions.com and you will see why. Vet should be doing full bloods etc to try and establish why the temp was elevated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Mick only had the Metacam for 4 days and I did query this as well but Vet gave me some 'gobbledegook' answer while I was trying to convince her it wasn't a stomach bug. I'm just so frustrated with this new lot, they don't listen to what you say and I'm too bl**dy old to take being treated like a jerk. I've contacted some other show people in the area and not one of them can recommend a Vet here for anything a bit out of the ordinary. Guess I'll have to do the trail and error thingy but that's hard on the dog and also my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Oh, bugga Could he still have 'something' floating around in his gut... causing pain..but not a blockage? Can you afford xrays to check? Hope he is feeling more comfortable soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Persephone, yes, I'm thinking maybe something along that line but would the Moxylan and/or Metacam disguise this? He was back to his usual self until today. My main problem is the lousy Vets I'm dealing with now. I know the old guys whom I'd been going to for 15 years would have listened to me and done more. The costs for the dogs have kept me poor but they don't miss out - it's just so frustrating when it's $50 for petrol, 3 hours travelling then another $145 for Mick last visit and I left feeling it was a total waste and I reckon that's been proven now. Guess I was grasping at straws hoping that someone could come up with something I could throw at the Vet but I'll keep an eye on Mick for today, he's sleeping now, and head there tomorrow and do some 'desk banging'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Pebbles.. Maybe anti-inflamms would help wiith the pain, and provide a 'masking' I know what you mean about the driving and no decent vet at the end of it, believe me! *fingers crossed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I'd be asking for x-rays, as you have so far to travel, you don't have the luxury of 'see how this goes and bring him back tomorrow' ! He may have a nerniated disc, a foreign body in the bowel, a gut infection.......anything ! at least radiographs may help eliminate some of these, and being only a teeny dog, it wont take many plates to get the views they need. Is he pooing, weeing & eating normally ? Hoping Mickey is well soon. fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnwarren Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Why not come down here,, go to a good vet, hope Mickey comes good soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Fifi, yep all the functions both in and out are normal, just this quietness and stretching. He's outside at the moment trotting around and seems OK but??? Hope to hang out until tomorrow for the Vet as weekends there's only one there but weekdays I can ask to see one of the others if I'm not happy with the first one. Wont feed him tonight (he'll hate me!) can't hurt. Dunnwarren - watch out - I'll stick a stamp on him and post to you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnwarren Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Without being dramatic mate,, but the vet did check out his heart didn't she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I thought I was the only one who had noticed that vets now graduate at 14. They seem to be getting younger all the time. The metacam would have alleviated any pain, and the Moxylan was because he didn't know what it was, and Moxylan wouldn't hurt, and might just work, and could reduce any infection/inflammation (indicated by the elevated temperature). I would wonder if something was out of joint for him to be behaving like that, but temp up would indicate some type of infection. Is his temp normal now? If he was my dog, and I wasn't happy with the vets, I'd try to find another one, and maybe drive that distance in another direction to a better one. And sorry I have no idea what the problem could be. Some of these obscure things are cured by antibiotics etc, some are not. Unfortunately, when they don't heal, they often need bloodwork, or someone really experienced who has the years to make the call. Not criticising the vet particularly, but this has been my experience too. These days, most of the excellent vets are in specialist centres - although the odd great one is in a general practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Mick had his heart/ lungs etc checked twice. Firstly by the Vet. who prescribed the anti's etc then again by the Chiro/Vet I took him to last week. He had a muscle out in his back and one in the thigh which he's apparently had for a long time. Mick has a deformed front leg and the muscles out were most likely caused by him favouring the leg. The Chiro/Vet checked everything possible and said he was a superbly fit little dog.The Chiro/Vet is very good but concentrates on the Chiro. part, having a large following in the horse world and isn't equipped to do small animal surgery, xrays, etc. Pity as I'd use her in a second. His temp was normal mid last week and it's normal today. Yes, Jed, reckon I'll be asking the age of any new Vet I find lol. They're getting younger every day bit like the Doctors, not many of the older 'family' Docs around either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Yep Jed you are so true.As my Dad would say "they are still pooing yellow!" Pebbles, hope that Mickey is okay Please keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) Yesterday afternoon about 4pm Mick wakes up and went outside and I followed like a little lamb lol. He picks up a bunch of leaves and starts doing mad zoomies around the yard, in the door, around the house and out again. Bounces up to me and says 'it's play time'. Bl**dy dogs, why do I stress out so much? Poor boy still only got a very small tea. 6am this morning (the 2 boys always want out at that time then we go back to my warm bed) I'm out in the freezing cold with a torch watching for a poo - it's OK. Get up about 8am and let everyone out and Mick is crazy, wants the old boy to play, does laps of the yard flat out then demands breakfast. No sign of any problems so while that's great I'd still like to know what caused the weird behaviour. Eta - thank goodness for DOL, it's great to be able to communicate with others who stress out about our mates. Edited May 19, 2008 by pebbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 LOL... Hope he stays fit&well now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggy_puggy Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Glad that Mick is ok now. I'm a bit worried that hte vet gave him meds when she really didn't know what was going on with him. I would put my money on Mick having something out of allignment and the trip to the chiropractor helped him and then the rest also did. One of the rescue pug pups I am fostering had been putting no weight on one of her back legs from Wednesday to Saturday, last week. I held off taking her to the vets as I had felt around and located the pain being in the hip and had crate rested her and like Mick she had been sleeping and moping around for the first two days. I took her to the vets on Saturday and he poked, proded and put the hip through it's motions whilst she screamed. He, being a good vet, didn't prescribe anything and said just wait and see. Wouldn't you know it the little shit was back to her normal self yesterday and back to putting weight onto her leg. I really think that the poking and prodding must have done something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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