BomaBec Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 I took Reiko to the vets today. They gave him his vaccination as they said although he is not in the best condition they think the vaccination needed doing and wouldnt be a major issue. They werent concerned about the diarrhoea as it has gone. They did a skin scraping and ruled out demodex mites but cant rule out sarcoptic. The checked for ring worm and couldnt see any. They said it could just be a dermatitus allergy. They shaved the few scabby spots he had off and said that the neocort probably helped that. They dont want to put him on any antibiotics as it isnt good with his vaccination and like with many people dont like over using them if can be avoided. They said to use the neocort just like I have been when need and only on the itchey spots and to bath him no more than twice a week. I didnt ask about the frontline as she just suggested using advocate as it covers the heart worm aswell as the fleas and mites. The thing they said to me which is confusing as other vets have said different and some have said the same is if they are over 12 weeks of age they only need one C5 vaccination then another Kennel Cough in a month, other vets say just give them one C5 and others say give them two C5s a month apart if you dont know their history. What do other people do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitznBear Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I took Reiko to the vets today.They gave him his vaccination as they said although he is not in the best condition they think the vaccination needed doing and wouldnt be a major issue. They werent concerned about the diarrhoea as it has gone. They did a skin scraping and ruled out demodex mites but cant rule out sarcoptic. The checked for ring worm and couldnt see any. They said it could just be a dermatitus allergy. They shaved the few scabby spots he had off and said that the neocort probably helped that. They dont want to put him on any antibiotics as it isnt good with his vaccination and like with many people dont like over using them if can be avoided. They said to use the neocort just like I have been when need and only on the itchey spots and to bath him no more than twice a week. I didnt ask about the frontline as she just suggested using advocate as it covers the heart worm aswell as the fleas and mites. The thing they said to me which is confusing as other vets have said different and some have said the same is if they are over 12 weeks of age they only need one C5 vaccination then another Kennel Cough in a month, other vets say just give them one C5 and others say give them two C5s a month apart if you dont know their history. What do other people do? Hey BomaBec just read through your post and just want to say "job well done!" Love the name too When we got Bear we had no history of his vaccinations so we took him to the vets on our way home from picking him up, where he got a booster shot (not sure what it was exactly) but Im looking at his records and cant quite make out what its for, but a month later got his C5 shot. I was told only 1 C5 was neccesary, I'm not sure why a dog would need 2 C5 shots? But when we bought Blitz home he had KC really bad , it was at the stage of secondry infection, it was horrible, but Bear caught a slight cough, nothing serious, just a cough in the cold mornings and he was fine, and he only had 1 C5 shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 glad he has nothing drastic..here's hoping for a great home, now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 In an adult rescue I do only 1 C5 and record the next due in 12months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted May 7, 2008 Author Share Posted May 7, 2008 Reiko is looking beter and better every day. I got some chicken necks today and tinned tuna... hes fussy little eater for a bully and being a puppy who is underweight.. Im used to those two combinations eating almost anything. Spoke to another vet about his irratation she said like I have read that sarcoptic mites are very itchy and if he isnt itching that much it could just be a bad diet and allergy thing and he should improve just with a better diet. Still going to treat him for mites though just incase. She said she would get two C5 vaccinations done but you can just go with a KC vaccination. Being a puppy I will probably just get a second one done in a month just to be on the safe side and new owners can discuss with their own vets after that how often to vaccinate. He has had a few enquiries about adoption and in a week and a half I have arranged for one family to meet him that sound promising. LOL BnB yeh Reiko was a good name.. my son loved it I got a camera today so just gonna get some pics for everyone whos busting to see him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted May 7, 2008 Author Share Posted May 7, 2008 Pics of his skin as best I could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz+Rome Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Poor baby just look at his skin. Well done for getting this guy the help he needs. Hopefully he finds a wonderful forever home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zayda_asher Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 It looks and sounds mighty like demodex to me... thing is demodex is often not found on first scrape because it hides right down in the follicle... sometimes you never return a positive scrape, but treat it and it clears... I'd be asking for another scrape in other areas and perhaps treating as demodex any way. If it is Dem its a nasty generalized case... which means he may well have other immune issues like allergies too. I never would've vaccinated a dog in this condition, esp. if it is allergies... Not having a go at you, but I don't think the Vet's attitude was right on that score personally. My guys both have chronic allergies and Zayda started off with the Demodex, so we've had a fair bit of experience with it... So feel free to drop me a PM if you want. Hope the little fella is feeling better soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Bomabec: I always tell people who have adopted dogs off me before about heart worm and that the dog hasnt been done. Very high risk areas are in the North of Australia where the whether is humid. Dense wooded areas and areas near streams/water ways are at a higher risk. Any area with mosquitos is a risk area. I know of a dog who tested positive for heart worm that had never left Canberra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 Yeh I know Poodle fan just saying they are Higher Risk areas. ZA the vet did two skin scrapings in different parts and did them down to slightly drawing blood she said if its demodex he would have heaps of mites. If it doesnt get much better in the next few weeks I will take him back or to another vet. I seriously dont know about the vaccinations, they think its just a skin allergy and besides being slighty underweight he is otherwise happy and healthy and active. If I knew of a good vet who didnt charge and arm and a leg and would give me a reduced fee I would take him to them, aswell as any other rescues but I dont have that choice atm.... very little vets will give rescues a discount and the decent ones are usually the last to offer it. Perth doesnt even come close to the assistance and support the Eastern States do in some ways, not whinging just stating the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zayda_asher Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 (edited) ZA the vet did two skin scrapings in different parts and did them down to slightly drawing blood she said if its demodex he would have heaps of mites. Yep, our Derm says its actually quite normal not to find mites in a scrap, even when you go deep enough to draw blood and for them still to have the mites... ETA: Zayda had a really bad case of generalised Demodex and they still didn't find that many mites in the scrapes... I seriously dont know about the vaccinations, they think its just a skin allergy and besides being slighty underweight he is otherwise happy and healthy and active. Vaccination is one of the worst things you can do for a dog with allergies as they have a compromised immune system... if you want PM me an email and I'll send you the stuff Dr Dodds (immunologist specialist in the States that has done a lot of research on vaccination) sent me. If you were up my neck of the woods I'd pack you off to my vet: I'm sure he'd work you out a deal for the fosters... but you're not Edited May 10, 2008 by zayda_asher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 OK thanks ZA will PM you. The vaccination thing really confuses me as they all tell you different and really I wanna do the best by the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) OK thanks ZA will PM you.The vaccination thing really confuses me as they all tell you different and really I wanna do the best by the dogs. This is why increasing your knowledge of these issues, independent from veterinary advice is important. DOL is a wonderful resource in that regard. I reckon a good rescuer must be part vet, part behaviourist, part psychologist and all heart. ETA: Access to a pets as therapy dog/handler would be ideal. Edited May 11, 2008 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 ZA the vet did two skin scrapings in different parts and did them down to slightly drawing blood she said if its demodex he would have heaps of mites. Yep, our Derm says its actually quite normal not to find mites in a scrap, even when you go deep enough to draw blood and for them still to have the mites... ETA: Zayda had a really bad case of generalised Demodex and they still didn't find that many mites in the scrapes... This happened to my vet. His dog looked like it had demodex and he scraped and scraped but got nothing. He ended up doing a biopsy and sent it off the the labs. Low and behold - demodex!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share Posted May 13, 2008 I have treated him with Advocate and will see how this goes. His skin is not red anymore and the fur is growing back well. He has a good covering over his ribs now. I still havent found anything to suggest which way is the best to vaccinate dogs, some have said only up til 12 months others three times in their life time? ETA: Access to a pets as therapy dog/handler would be ideal. Dont know quite what you mean sorry PF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomaBec Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 For anyone interested this is Reiko one month after curled up in front of the fire at his new home. And two and half months after getting him out of the pound .... He hasnt grown much but he looks a hundred percent better compared to when I first got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 ooh.. what a cutie he is too. love helps too doesnt it? with his skin problems i would titre test before even thinking of vaccinating. Cheers Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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