rizenstar Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I have a friend that is having issues with her bitch going lame of late and it has been suggested to her(not by a vet though) to use Metacam on her - Her worry is that it may affect the bitches reproduction side of things and that it will take a long time to get into her system and not give her any relief. Are there issues that she should know about before trying it out and how long till she would notice a difference before she should stop using it? Many Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucknow Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) I would get her checked out by a vet if she has not already done so. Metacam is an NSAID and as such can cause issues with stomach ulceration and even liver damage. It works very well when used appropriately. Edited to add:sorry whizzed through post, metacam has not been associated with any birth defects, it takes I think less than an hour if given by injectable, not much more if given orally(which it would be at home). Edited March 17, 2008 by lucknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 All those questions will be answered by the Vet and she will need to see one to get Metacam anyway. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I have a friend that is having issues with her bitch going lame of late and it has been suggested to her(not by a vet though) to use Metacam on her - Her worry is that it may affect the bitches reproduction side of things and that it will take a long time to get into her system and not give her any relief.Are there issues that she should know about before trying it out and how long till she would notice a difference before she should stop using it? The important issue is to see a vet to discover why this bitch is going lame. Has she taken the dog to a vet to find out the reason? The metacam is a side issue until she finds out why the dog is lame. The reproduction issue is at the bottom of the pile as you wouldn't want to be breeding dog with unidentified lameness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizenstar Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 She has had her checked out by her vet and they seem to think that it could be the early onset of arthritis(bitch from memory is about 4) but they want to do whole lot of injections that my girlfriend just doesn't feel happy doing to her girl - hence the reason Metacam(orally) was suggested. I will let her know that she will have to contact her vet to be able to get Metacam and let her know what you guys have said - I'm sure she'll be happy to know that it won't take weeks to notice a difference in her girl if shes able to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucknow Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Personally if it were my girl I would leave Metacam as a last resort, it does have side effects and the longer an an animal is on it the more likely effects are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Fox 001 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Our bloke has arthritis and we found Sasha's Blend in his food every night has kept it generally under control. When he has had a really big day out he will get Metacam that night. This seems to be working very well for him, and we have only used the Metacam three time in the past 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I think the first thing that has to be addressed is the breeding. For a 4yr old to have arthritis is not normal and unless she has had an accident I would be suspicious of things such as HD or elbow issues which means the bitch should be desexed. Even if she has had an accident I would have to think seriously about allowing her to have a litter as it places a lot more weight and strain what is already hurting. Metacam for me is not the first thing I would use and never in a girl i was going to breed anytime near when she was due in season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I agree cowanbree. Metacam nearly killed my avatar girl so no NSAIDs for my dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 She has had her checked out by her vet and they seem to think that it could be the early onset of arthritis(bitch from memory is about 4) but they want to do whole lot of injections that my girlfriend just doesn't feel happy doing to her girl - hence the reason Metacam(orally) was suggested.I will let her know that she will have to contact her vet to be able to get Metacam and let her know what you guys have said - I'm sure she'll be happy to know that it won't take weeks to notice a difference in her girl if shes able to use it. If the round of injections is Cartrophen then it is perfectly safe and well worth trying first off, there are no known side effects noted so far, it doesn't work for all dogs but then others get a huge amount of relief and can delay the need for use of NSAID's such as Metacam. If it were my dog I would be pushing for Xrays with the Vet, and if they don't want to do them, then find another Vet for a second opinion who is willing to do the Xrays. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Totally agree with others expressing concern about breeding this dog: * If she has arthritis, it will be worsened by the weight of pregnancy * You don't want to breed a dog with early arthritis as there's a genetic component . Metacam can be a very effective drug when used as prescribed. Must be prescribed by a vet and is best to have some idea what you're treating b4 giving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizenstar Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi Everyone, A quick update on Stephie's girl Mela, she has decide to go with the Cartrophen Injections(I found out today when I gave her a call - see what happens when I only get half the story lol) Im not sure if Steph was seriously considering ever mating Mela but I think she was just worried about the side effects and what it would do to her internally. I'd like to take this oppurtunity to THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, its greatly appreciated by both Steph and myself I will be sure to let you all know how she gets on, Thanx again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I have had a bitch on Metacam who vomitted and Diahorraed. She did it shortly after the initial injection. The vet said that the injection does not cause it.... THey have to be on it for some time orally. Later after about three days on it orally, vomited and diahorrea again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Cartrophen = Glucossamine... Vet specialist said to go to the human discount chemist and get the human glucaussamine tablets.. 1/3 dose for dog roughly (this is for Border Collie).. May take longer to see effects than an injection. But he said it is the same stuff as the tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Cartrophen = Glucossamine...Vet specialist said to go to the human discount chemist and get the human glucaussamine tablets.. 1/3 dose for dog roughly (this is for Border Collie).. May take longer to see effects than an injection. But he said it is the same stuff as the tablets. No it's not. Cartrophen is Pentosan Sulphate. Glucosamine is glucosamine. It comes in either sulphate or hydrochoride. The glucosamine hydrochloride is more readily bioavailable to dogs due to the molecular structure. Glucosamine is not of much value without Chondroitin and preferably with MSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushiemum Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 My 8 year old Samoyed is on Metacam following a long operation for teeth removal, castration, scrotal ablation and an anal gland infection (poor boy!). He's doing really well and doesn't seem to be in any pain but does anyone know if Metacam causes any other side effects than those already mentioned? It seems to have sent Pchelka really hyper especially at night - at 1am-2am-3am he decides to cavort around the house, literally knocking over furniture, throwing himself against doors etc. He's always really happy when I get up to him and if I let him out thinking he needs a pee he just thinks that's a wonderful opportunity to run madly around the garden, in the middle of the night. Before his operation he was fine, slept peacefully at night. Now he paces the hallway for maybe an hour then settles for a bit, then is up again, he doesn't always want to be let out, he is just really active. It may possibly be that as I can't exercise this him week due to a very large number of internal and external stitches he has excess energy, but he's not a puppy and I wouldn't have thought that would cause him to go mad in the middle of the night! So I wonder if it's the Metacam, has anyone else experienced this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyking Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 She has had her checked out by her vet and they seem to think that it could be the early onset of arthritis(bitch from memory is about 4) but they want to do whole lot of injections that my girlfriend just doesn't feel happy doing to her girl - hence the reason Metacam(orally) was suggested.I will let her know that she will have to contact her vet to be able to get Metacam and let her know what you guys have said - I'm sure she'll be happy to know that it won't take weeks to notice a difference in her girl if shes able to use it. Go to Robert McDowells herbal treatment site and have a look at his anti inflammatory mix. It is wonderful stuff and a great alternative to metacam http://www.herbal-treatments.com.au/herbal...s_for_dogs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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