laffi Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 OK, I have been training for ET for about a month now. Mostly running 5 times a week but I wanted to include some biking as well. After reading the thread: http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=130031 I am a little confused. How are you supposed to bike with your dog for ET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) OK, I have been training for ET for about a month now. Mostly running 5 times a week but I wanted to include some biking as well. After reading the thread:http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=130031 I am a little confused. How are you supposed to bike with your dog for ET? The dog is onlead and you hold the lead in your hand. Lead can be attached to a collar or (from memory) a harness. You can't use a halti. Edited March 13, 2008 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 This is what I am confused about: It's been illegal in Qld for many years. You are not allowed to tether an animal to a vehicle (which a bicycle is classed as). You are not allowed to hold the lead in your hand either. It's a safety thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Holding the lead is illegal too, at least it was when I was pulled up for it and then callled the Qld Police. Laffi - As I said, there is no way to do it legally on public land. You either attach and risk police involvement or you let them run free and risk council involvement. Edited March 13, 2008 by molasseslass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Holding the lead is illegal too, at least it was when I was pulled up for it and then callled the Qld Police.Laffi - As I said, there is no way to do it legally on public land. You either attach and risk police involvement or you let them run free and risk council involvement. I totally understand, but how are we supposed to train the dogs if it's illegal to hold the leash? It's very strange ETA: Great pic poodlefan Edited March 13, 2008 by laffi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'd prefer to risk the police than my dog's safety. You can't really train a dog to gait at the required pace beside the bike offlead unless it will heel (or similar) and I don't really think you run much risk of being pulled over by the cops for having your dog onlead if you aren't on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'd prefer to risk the police than my dog's safety. You can't really train a dog to gait at the required pace beside the bike offlead unless it will heel (or similar) and I don't really think you run much risk of being pulled over by the cops for having your dog onlead if you aren't on the road. I totally agree: safety first. Now that I know what the laws are, I would like to know how people trained for it. I guess the most important question would be: where did you bike? I am even more interested where people did it in SE QLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Darcy was trained to gait with the bike on footpaths and bikepaths. He did the overwhelming majority of his training running offlead on bush tracks - the joy of living in Canberra. Edited March 13, 2008 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I would love to try this but I have a feeling the bike rider would let the dog down Does anyone know where I can get all the details? I.e speeds and times required, age of dog etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Okay found some info (WA relevant) Dog must be between 2 and 7 years of age. It says that a simple obedience exercise before and after. Anyone know what that involves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) I would love to try this but I have a feeling the bike rider would let the dog down Does anyone know where I can get all the details? I.e speeds and times required, age of dog etc ANKC Endurance Test Rules Obedience when I did it was short heel on lead (out, turn and back) and recall from end of lead. You can have a different bike handler/s to the obedience one. I did The pace of the test is 10kph for all dogs - a big ask for a Tenterfield Terrier. Edited March 13, 2008 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for that PF I know his breeder has done the ET with Kyzer's grandfather, so I know it can be done, although it would be a challenge. Kyzer is a fair bit taller than the average Tentie though. It does take a long time for his batteries to run flat though The heel work is a much scarier prospect than the bike ride I've got a year to think about it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Thanks for that PF I know his breeder has done the ET with Kyzer's grandfather, so I know it can be done, although it would be a challenge. Kyzer is a fair bit taller than the average Tentie though. If a CKCS and a Mini P can do it, a tall fit Tentie should be OK. It would be better if he could trot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 The obedience is very, very basic, it is more to show that the dog can respond they same way after the test as it did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 The obedience is very, very basic, it is more to show that the dog can respond they same way after the test as it did before. It is Pax but you can fail it. A dog did when Darcy did his ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAX Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Really? That's a bit sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Advice on the obedience test - most judges will keep it fairly simple and short , as it is primarily to see (a) that the dog is under some sort of control and (b) that at the end of the test it still has its brain in working order - or at least working as well as it was before. ETA even though you have the option to do it off lead, it's safer to do it on lead. As far as training goes, it's illegal in Tas too to ride a bike with a dog on a public road - and you can't take dogs on the main bike path in Hobart. However, you can sometimes find parks with trails through them where you can make up a circuit - we had one about 1.5k round trip - and gravel, which was good, and we also had a bike path and a road which was usually closed off - about 3km round trip - bitumen and concrete and grass. As far as speed goes, the test has to be completed within 2 hours riding time - but be aware that the judge may instruct the pacesetter to take the first leg out somewhat faster than the 10kph average, to get a bit of time in hand for unforseen circumstances - like gale force winds and sleet as we had down here a couple of years ago when my dogs and I did ET . So in training, it's handy to work up to the dogs being comfortable at about 13-14 kph for at least part of the time. Then you have no worries. Just remember to allow plenty of training time to build up fitness (handler and dog) and toughen up paws (dog) and bum (handler). Edited March 13, 2008 by Tassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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