Vaccinations

[Guest Tess32]

This gets asked about a lot so thought we could add any interesting articles etc to this thread.

To start with this is the protcol recommended by Jean Dodds

http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm

[InspectorRex]

our vet does

6-8 weeks first C3(only if pups weaned at 4 weeks of age)

12-14 second C3 plus intranasal KC

16-18 weeks C3

the I year later the Nobivac DHP , that lasts for 3 years, and annual intranasal kc vaccine

[Guest Tess32]

AFAIK, Nobivac only requires two, not three shots.

While I can understand vets advocating the 16 week shot, I do believe in minimal vaccinations and I would recommend people titer test a puppy 14 days after their 12-14 week shot, check they have seroconverted and then that's it. I understand the general public simply may not do this and that's partly why vets argue for the 3rd shot still. Historically it seems the only reason to do three puppy shots is because they cannot tell when maternal antibodies run out/stop interfering with the vaccine.

From then on I will be titer testing in place of vaccinations as you do need proof for clubs etc. From what I have read, I do believe immunity is for life once *properly* immunised

All IMO of course, everyone needs to do their own research and be comfortable with their choice. I do think it's a big issue though and many people haven't realised that yearly vaccs are no longer required.

[aranyoz]

The Vaccination Guideline Group of the World Small Animal Veterinary Association announced its international guidelines for canine and feline vaccinations at the WSAVA congress which was held in Sydney in August.

The VGG categorised vaccinations into core vaccines, non-core vaccines and not recommended vaccines.

DOGS

• Core vaccines: Parvovirus, Distemper and Adenovirus.
  
• Non-core vaccines: Parainfluenza, Bordetella and Leptospirosis
  

The group does not recommend vaccination for giardia or coronavirus

Vaccinate puppies at 8, 12 and 16 weeks with a booster 12months after the last vaccination. After that dogs should be vaccinated with core vaccines not more often than every 3 years.

[Nekhbet]

Can we please stop quoting American vaccine sites please. We do not use those products and we DONT VACCINATE FOR RABIES so the protocol will be different.

Jeezus. C3 here in Australia is Parvo, Distemper and Hepatitis. C5 Includes Viral and Bacterial components of kennel cough.

Start finding information about Australian vaccinations and then make a decision.

[Guest Tess32]

Nekhbet, I'm sure people can use the *information that applies*. There isn't much in Australia about it, do you have some articles you can add?

[oakway]

The Vaccination Guideline Group of the World Small Animal Veterinary Association announced its international guidelines for canine and feline vaccinations at the WSAVA congress which was held in Sydney in August.

The VGG categorised vaccinations into core vaccines, non-core vaccines and not recommended vaccines.

DOGS

• Core vaccines: Parvovirus, Distemper and Adenovirus.
  
• Non-core vaccines: Parainfluenza, Bordetella and Leptospirosis
  

The group does not recommend vaccination for giardia or coronavirus

Vaccinate puppies at 8, 12 and 16 weeks with a booster 12months after the last vaccination. After that dogs should be vaccinated with core vaccines not more often than every 3 years.

I suggest that you all read this article again CAREFULLY. The was done in Aust and nowhere does it

suggest rabies. These are about core and non core vaccines.

[oakway]

This gets asked about a lot so thought we could add any interesting articles etc to this thread.

To start with this is the protcol recommended by Jean Dodds

http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm

Dr Jean Dodds is one of the worlds foremost persons on vaccination.

I wish I could attend her lectures but as she is not coming to Brisbane I will miss out on a lot of learning.

[aranyoz]

The Vaccination Guideline Group of the World Small Animal Veterinary Association announced its international guidelines for canine and feline vaccinations at the WSAVA congress which was held in Sydney in August.

The VGG categorised vaccinations into core vaccines, non-core vaccines and not recommended vaccines.

DOGS

• Core vaccines: Parvovirus, Distemper and Adenovirus.
  
• Non-core vaccines: Parainfluenza, Bordetella and Leptospirosis
  

The group does not recommend vaccination for giardia or coronavirus

Vaccinate puppies at 8, 12 and 16 weeks with a booster 12months after the last vaccination. After that dogs should be vaccinated with core vaccines not more often than every 3 years.

Here is the link to the WSAVA proceedings where the speaker was Steven Holloway BVSC, MVS, DACVIM, PhD from the University of Melbourne, Vic. AUSTRALIA.

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2007&PID=pr18190&O=Generic

Edited February 29, 2008 by aranyoz

[InspectorRex]

Aranyoz- that is how my Vet does it. My first post wan't clear enough

It should have read

My Vet vaccinate puppies at 8, 12 and 16 weeks then a booster 12months after the last vaccination.

After that our dogs are vaccinated with Nobivac vaccines which means they do not need another DHP for 3 years.Intranasal KC Vaccine every 12mths, Nobishiel. Sorry if I confued anyone

[maxiblack]

We've recently had our 1 yo staffy x vaccinated (C5) and since then he's been lethargic and exhibiting aggressive behaviour towards our older dog. Up until now the dogs have gotten along well. We've been in touch with Steve Courtney and he's suggested that it could be vaccinosis, something I've never heard of before and I've emailed Dr Steven Holloway to ask him about the effects of vaccination.

I'll certainly be doing my research and getting further advice before having him vaccinated again, it's been very distressing and all we can do is keep the dogs separated and keep an eye on him until it either wears off or until we can meet with Steve.

[Tara and Sam]

C3 here in Australia is Parvo, Distemper and Hepatitis.

C5 Includes Viral and Bacterial components of kennel cough.

C4 also contains Kennel Cough ?

or so I was told by our vet 11 yrs ago , and have always had C4 given

this year he gave C5 without really asking us first

[huga]

This gets asked about a lot so thought we could add any interesting articles etc to this thread.

To start with this is the protcol recommended by Jean Dodds

http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm

Dr Jean Dodds is one of the worlds foremost persons on vaccination.

I wish I could attend her lectures but as she is not coming to Brisbane I will miss out on a lot of learning.

She will be speaking at the MDBA Awards held in Brisbane in June

[BomaBec]

I have been told so many different things.

Some say one C3 at 6 to 8 weeks then following with two C5s a month apart others say two C3s a month apart then one C5 and then others have said one C5 to begin with them two C3s a month apart and of course the two C5s and then one C3 a month apart. Then they all say boosters should be given yearly but soem say a C5 others say a C3. Some use the new intranasal one, if the dog is 12 weeks or older they say they only need one vaccination others say they need two of this one no matter what the age (not sure what it covers either but think they said its like a C5).

Now with fosters its depends on their age and gets a whole lot more confusing. If they dont know their history.. which we usually dont.... they have suggested (for dogs over the 3 month period of age) two one month apart but some say one C3 and one C5 and others say two C5s and I have been told by other vets only to give one C5. With pups around the eight to ten week mark Ive been told to give three or two as above.

I would love to hear the general consensis of people on DOL.. if there is one?.

I have been giving my own dog C5 boosters every year since he was a pup (he had one C3 to begin and two C5s as a pup) and hes now turning 5 and am thinking of not bothering to vaccinate again.

[Guest Tess32]

I have been told so many different things.

Some say one C3 at 6 to 8 weeks then following with two C5s a month apart others say two C3s a month apart then one C5 and then others have said one C5 to begin with them two C3s a month apart and of course the two C5s and then one C3 a month apart. Then they all say boosters should be given yearly but soem say a C5 others say a C3. Some use the new intranasal one, if the dog is 12 weeks or older they say they only need one vaccination others say they need two of this one no matter what the age (not sure what it covers either but think they said its like a C5).

Now with fosters its depends on their age and gets a whole lot more confusing. If they dont know their history.. which we usually dont.... they have suggested (for dogs over the 3 month period of age) two one month apart but some say one C3 and one C5 and others say two C5s and I have been told by other vets only to give one C5. With pups around the eight to ten week mark Ive been told to give three or two as above.

I would love to hear the general consensis of people on DOL.. if there is one?.

I have been giving my own dog C5 boosters every year since he was a pup (he had one C3 to begin and two C5s as a pup) and hes now turning 5 and am thinking of not bothering to vaccinate again.

Why don't you just follow Jean Dodds protcol? She's the leading expert on vaccinations, after all. She's well respected and knows what she's talking about and her protpcol is what we should aim for being the 'norm' now.

One C3 at 8 weeks, one at 12, and one at 12-14 months and you're done. KC if you have to.