Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi guys, Finta's front feet are going east-west at the moment and I've been advised to supplement her with Vit C to help this. Which is better - human vitamin C tablets from the pharmacy, or Ester C powder? Is there a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyoz Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Befor supplementing with vit C ensure that you are not feeding her a premium puppy food and if so change to an adult food which may help to improve the situation. Other wise normal vit c tabs from pharmacy or health food store, avoid ester c as it contains added calcuim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 She's being changed to a full BARF diet this week. She's been eating some raw already so I'm just cutting out the dry food altogether and adding a vegie/patty mix. Thanks Aranyoz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 i've purchased my dogs vitamins including vit c from http://www.callicoma.com.au/supplem1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I use the Blackmores Vitamin C powder with bioflavinoids.. improves absorbtion. Esther C is easier on the stomach but expensive and fairly hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyoz Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) Are you using chicken, necks, wings or frames in your barf diet, as this will provide an excellent sorce of natural calcium and she will only assimilate that which she needs because it is a natual source. A little extra vit c may assist with her assimilation. Edited January 31, 2008 by aranyoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I've heard some quite negative things about supplementing with Vitamin C... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyoz Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I've heard some quite negative things about supplementing with Vitamin C... You are right Tess large does of Vit c are not recommended, if it were for a JRT I would only give 250mg a day to start and give that for no more than 7 - 10 days and then stop and monitor. A small dose can help sometimes only one or two small doses will be benificial. But I would definately look to diet first before supplementing myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I use it for the oldies or when a dog is unwell. I didn't give it to pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) I use the Blackmores Vitamin C powder with bioflavinoids.. improves absorbtion. Esther C is easier on the stomach but expensive and fairly hard to find. [second post] I use it for the oldies or when a dog is unwell. I didn't give it to pups. ETA in response to your second post, I'll try it out, the person who recommended it is pretty highly regarded and she has experience with this breed. I won't keep her on it long term. As you are the BARF diet guru and I am leeching off your BARF diet advice (I've been searching your posts like a proper stalker) I shall use that also. Her stomach doesn't appear to be easily upset so far. I'll see how she goes. Are you using chicken, necks, wings or frames in your barf diet, as this will provide an excellent sorce of natural calcium and she will only assimilate that which she needs because it is a natual source. A little extra vit c may assist with her assimilation. Yes. Chicken wings, and minced chicken frames in the patty mix. You are right Tess large does of Vit c are not recommended, if it were for a JRT I would only give 250mg a day to start and give that for no more than 7 - 10 days and then stop and monitor. Thanks for that, I'll do that and then see what her trainer thinks next week. Possibly getting her off the premium puppy kibble will make a difference in and of itself. Edited January 31, 2008 by Piximatosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I use the Blackmores Vitamin C powder with bioflavinoids.. improves absorbtion. Esther C is easier on the stomach but expensive and fairly hard to find. As you are the BARF diet guru and I am leeching off your BARF diet advice (I've been searching your posts like a proper stalker) I shall use that also. Her stomach doesn't appear to be easily upset so far. I'll see how she goes. Nah, Espinay is the BARF goddess - she put me onto the diet in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 There are a number of very knowledgable people around on this forum PF 'twas just your posts I've seen recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What's prompted the swing away from kibble Pix?? Anything in particular? I reckon a more natural source of calcium and a phos balance might not hurt easty/westy feet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aranyoz Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What's prompted the swing away from kibble Pix?? Anything in particular? I reckon a more natural source of calcium and a phos balance might not hurt easty/westy feet either. Interesting this raw feeding. Have been feeding raw for over 6 years but not strictly barf. I am more of a raw meaty bones feeder myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 What's prompted the swing away from kibble Pix?? Anything in particular? I reckon a more natural source of calcium and a phos balance might not hurt easty/westy feet either. Interesting this raw feeding. Have been feeding raw for over 6 years but not strictly barf. I am more of a raw meaty bones feeder myself. I find the little guys seem to need the bulk of veggie mix every few days to keep everything 'moving' Aranyoz. I know Darcy's breeder (JAG) was initially a bit concerned about him being raised as a raw fed baby but I thinks she's a lot happier now. Gee he was dwarfed by other pups his age for a while there but is now at the top of the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) I was feeding kibble because Kaeleigh (RIP) simply couldn't maintain weight on a purely BARF diet. If I upped the fat content, she got the squirts - badly - and if I lowered the fat content, she looked like a walking skeleton. She wouldn't eat very much in one sitting but if I split her meals up until she was being fed multiple times a day, it appeared that her metabolism sped up even more and she got worse. I was simply lazy and figured if I was buying kibble for one I may as well for the others. They've always had RMBs too but no added vegies etc. I was also buying the pre-made BARF patties recently but apparently they're sinful as well When I got Finta, I was worried about feeding her properly (growing baby and all) so have been using Eagle Pack kibble. Looks as though she's got growing "issues" anyway (I'm sure they won't kill her but I'd prefer she wasn't walking like a derro) so I can't do any WORSE feeding a proper BARF diet. ETA aranyoz, mine get constipated as well without a small amount of vegetable/fruit matter in the diet Edited January 31, 2008 by Piximatosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 My holistic vet says a BARF diet doesn't suit every dog but I suppose I'm lucky it seems to suit mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Kaeleigh was a giant PITA in more than one area (still miss her like crazy though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) When Darce was a youngster, he pierced his soft palate (long story) and had to have cooked food for a few weeks to lower the risk of bacterial infection. I invented Doogy (another nickname for him) Stew. Friends wanted to try it until I told them what was in it - it sure smelt good. He became a chewer almost overnight without RMBs. I honestly think dogs need to exercise their jaws. If they can't do it on their food, they'll look for other options. Edited January 31, 2008 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 That, and I simply can't stand the stinky breath that goes along with dogs who never get RMBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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