nillasdad Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I use the same approach as PF mentioned above - lots and lots of socialisation/car trips/walks to the shops - I've got an incredibly well adjusted young dog....still a bit mad though What did you think you where going to get when you got Ziggy? I just figured he'd come trained already....you know, like the ones in the movie? :D You only get that in the 101 package, not in the single unit purchase... Didn't they offer you the upsell???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Ahh, i see... Odette DEFINATELY dictates the pace laugh.gif I was using an extendable lead to being with, but she tugs so hard on it, ive gotten her a much stronger lead, and she is only a little dog!!! Sounds like she dicates the rules too.Little dog doesnt make them exempt from behaviour skills & what you allow now moulds them for life or you end had like many posting here at 6 months my dog is feral on a lead.. We inform all our puppy owners what we feel is acceptable type of walking & the amount of time.It is in our puppy paperwork that they read through & sign.Why because many chose to ignore sound advice & many r vets hand out inappropriate advice but dont guarantee there info if it isnt done correctly & when damage happens they will soon phone the breeder. Even rough play in young pups when playing adults needs to be watched . It only takes one good thump on the hip area or shoulder to do long term damage. We sit out the front with our pups from 6 weeks.Outside doesnt mean it has to go walks everytime but its being exposed to cars going past,lawnmowers,kids,bikes,noises all things that if they havent adjusted to well slowly can be overwhelming on a walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Ahh, i see... Odette DEFINATELY dictates the pace laugh.gif I was using an extendable lead to being with, but she tugs so hard on it, ive gotten her a much stronger lead, and she is only a little dog!!!Sounds like she dicates the rules too.Little dog doesnt make them exempt from behaviour skills & what you allow now moulds them for life or you end had like many posting here at 6 months my dog is feral on a lead.. We inform all our puppy owners what we feel is acceptable type of walking & the amount of time.It is in our puppy paperwork that they read through & sign.Why because many chose to ignore sound advice & many r vets hand out inappropriate advice but dont guarantee there info if it isnt done correctly & when damage happens they will soon phone the breeder. Even rough play in young pups when playing adults needs to be watched . It only takes one good thump on the hip area or shoulder to do long term damage. We sit out the front with our pups from 6 weeks.Outside doesnt mean it has to go walks everytime but its being exposed to cars going past,lawnmowers,kids,bikes,noises all things that if they havent adjusted to well slowly can be overwhelming on a walk. I live in an apartment, right next to a main road, and she has been playing in the courtyards (i have one at back and at front, both secure) since we got her, there are always trams and cars going by, and people...she's fine with traffic and noise, the only thing Ive ever seen her jump at was a very loud motorbike going past, she seems a little jumpy with them. No problem at all with people or children, in fact, if anything, she loves children. She actually is GREAT off lead, stays right beside me, and her recall is excellent. Yesterday she came to the garage with me to get something, off lead, and stayed right at my side. I have her clicker and a handful of food on me at all times, in case she does get the idea to run off. On the lead though, she tugs. We're working on that problem at the moment, she picks things up quickly, and ive booked in for beyond basics obedience classes next month. I really dont have any major complaints with her at all, nothing that i dont think can be easily sorted with time and patience, she is after all still a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nillasdad Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 There is a great video on the Tube which might help you get her to tug less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 So the latest advice is that you don't walk puppies. You socialise them and then let them free exercise. Whilst I agree with not going for massive long walks I can see the benefit of short (30 min) walks. My older dogs all got walked from 8 weeks of age. They are border collies and I knew I had to keep them active etc. Neither seemed to suffer from this. Brock my 2yo is a total couch potato and didn't need to be walked as a puppy (I'm on acreage btw). The latest addition is a different matter! She is a bit of a 'doing' dog. A day of not training her and I can notice it!! So who is walking their puppies?? I don't want to feel like a mean mum! Dog ownership used to be much easier in the old days ;) i walked my lab puppy from 12weeks but not long distances, while she fitted she would spend most of the walk asleep or watching from the carry pouch underneath the pram haha, my new puppy has been off the farm twice in nearly 2 weeks, i walk them thro the paddocks and my sis takes him on the lead down the drive and up the road to chceck the letter box! we are moving back into town in the next month which i will then start walking him for 10-20mins each night, then once trusted will be aloud off lead with my girl to chase a ball/go for a run. "experts" change their minds all the time just do what you think best for your dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 The 10 min walk + training session is not doing it for this puppy! I've done that all week and she isn't as content as she was after the 30 min walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 The 10 min walk + training session is not doing it for this puppy! I've done that all week and she isn't as content as she was after the 30 min walk. You have to remember that you are changing what she expects. What about moreoff lead playing? Maybe even 30 minutes but split up into 2 lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 She only had 1 30 min walk! She gets lots of off lead play as I live on acerage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 There is a great video on the Tube which might help you get her to tug less... Thats great, thankyou very much!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 The 10 min walk + training session is not doing it for this puppy! I've done that all week and she isn't as content as she was after the 30 min walk. One thing I missed....how old is puppy? Do you mind me asking what sort of training you are doing with her? Only because Zig was a nutty pup and it was also hard to channel all that energy (and we have a tiny backyard so not much to investigate - I'm jealous of your acreage!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 She only had 1 30 min walk! She gets lots of off lead play as I live on acerage. hmmmmm. she is border collie isnt she? what does the breeder say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Yep she is a border collie. Is umm 16 weeks now. She is my 4th border collie. Borders 1 & 2 got walked from 8 weeks. Border 1 died at 15.5 years sound as a bell. Border 2 snapped a tendon chasing a horse so can't really relate that to walking. Border 2 didn't get walked but is super quiet. With training I am an instructor at my dog club so am following our normal program. She sits, drops & stands. Have just started to work on stays. Have taught touch and watch. Am working on heeling. Waiting for dinner, waiting to go through doors. And recalls. She loves her training! Edited January 25, 2008 by JulesP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Oh, she sounds like soooo much fun to work with!!!! Amazing how young and yet so much energy! What about some scent work? That was and remains one of my favourite ways to tire Zig out - I make him wait in the hallway, show him one of his all time favourite toys (always soft and squeaky ) then hide it somewhere in the house. He goes completely bananas for this and I'm making it a little bit harder for him by laying distractions around. What sort of surfaces is she walking on? I'm sure that makes a huge difference in the walk lengths too - the bitumen and concrete in the city is so much less natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Were I want to go walking is gravel paths. It is a very exciting place for puppies! Lots of different things to see. People, kids, bikes, prams, birdies, we had noisey toy boats last time too. She is fun to train, I am looking forward to dog school starting back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yep she is a border collie. Is umm 16 weeks now. She is my 4th border collie. Borders 1 & 2 got walked from 8 weeks. Border 1 died at 15.5 years sound as a bell. Border 2 snapped a tendon chasing a horse so can't really relate that to walking. Border 2 didn't get walked but is super quiet. With training I am an instructor at my dog club so am following our normal program. She sits, drops & stands. Have just started to work on stays. Have taught touch and watch. Am working on heeling. Waiting for dinner, waiting to go through doors. And recalls. She loves her training! I think if it is working for you then keep it up. GSDs and rotti are prone to HD so you need to be more careful. And giant breeds too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neatz Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) thespotteddevil, i play that game too! As for walking puppies I personally think that this is a much safer way to tire them out (controled walks on lead) than letting them run like crazy in your yard etc until they are more mature. I'm off to the vet tomorrow cos my dog is holding her back leg up limping (the dogs were tearing round the yard while I wasn't home) and I am so worried about her ACL . She is only 6 months old but she runs like a rocket and has no sense of caution. Just what I need......another vet bill Edited January 28, 2008 by neatz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban-Ed Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 My guy gets little spurt walks on lead around busy neighbourhood to get used to sights, sounds and smells. Also gets socialised time with other dogs on and off lead. I think it's important for both as you want puppy to feel comfortable with other dogs both ways. The great thing about pups is that they don't need much time out and about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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