blacklabrador Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) There is a kind of diabetes where people/animals pee a lot because they lose their ability to concentrate urine, and to compensate for this they drink a lot of water. It presents in the same way to diabetes mellitus (sugar/insulin diabetes) but the cause and therefore treatment is different. I would like to know how it starts (suddenly or over a long period - good days/bad days etc) Edited January 17, 2008 by blacklabrador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanglen Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 What a fluke, was just about to log off and saw this! It's one of my pet topics, not commonly diagnosed but I lived with it with a cattle dog girl for nearly 5 years. She was my best mate and lived a happy time with it, have you got one diagnosed? pituitary or renal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 No diagnosis. I will do a urine test next chance I get to rule out sugar diabetes. There's something going on though - worst today I've ever seen. Two large dilute urine puddles every hour over the last four hours. So dilute it doesn't smell like urine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) Just throwing this one out - have you checked for Addison's disease, as excessive drinking can also be a sign of this. Edited January 17, 2008 by squeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 She's settled now - no pee since I last posted. She's been drinking out of the labs bowls so it's difficult to know how much she's drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Age Outlaw Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Also known as Water Diabetes...not uncommon in greyhounds who have over exerted, particularly in really hot weather...there should be loads of info on google, but I would be getting some tests done to rule out any other possible causes. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baifra Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) I have never heard of water diabetes but diabetes insipidus is usually an acute diagnosis in humans caused by a few things, eg head injuries. I have never heard of it as a chronic problem or in dogs. Very interesting. My lab x has diabetes mellitus and requires two injections of insulin a day. alanglen what did you do to treat/ manage it? did u use DDAVP? Thats what we use when a human has it. Edited January 17, 2008 by baifra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 The peeing has settled but I feel like she's slightly off colour. Viral infections can cause fluid balance shifts or large amounts of glucose to be lost in the urine (which means that large amounts of urine are lost). Chest is clear and she's running around like normal - probably just 95% of her normal 110% idiocy. Something only the Mama would pick up on. We'll be off to the vets tomorrow if she's not 100%. Thanks for your help. Baifra - Diabetes insipidus can occur at any time as a chronic condition either as a pituitary problem (insufficient hormone) or as a kidney problem (lack of response to hormone). Yep it happens in dogs too, but as in humans, it's much less common than DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baifra Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 The peeing has settled but I feel like she's slightly off colour. Viral infections can cause fluid balance shifts or large amounts of glucose to be lost in the urine (which means that large amounts of urine are lost). Chest is clear and she's running around like normal - probably just 95% of her normal 110% idiocy. Something only the Mama would pick up on. We'll be off to the vets tomorrow if she's not 100%. Thanks for your help.Baifra - Diabetes insipidus can occur at any time as a chronic condition either as a pituitary problem (insufficient hormone) or as a kidney problem (lack of response to hormone). Yep it happens in dogs too, but as in humans, it's much less common than DM. After i read your post i went off and did some research. Im a nurse and work in ICU so thats why i only see the acute DI, i never even considered that it could be a chronic problem but after reading several articles i now understand. There's quite a lot of information out there for dogs with DI which was very interesting reading. Sounds like a fairly managable disease really. My dogs DM is easily managed now but i found that initially i was quite overwhelmed!! I hope your doggie is ok. Good luck. Your right about being the only one who really knows if your loved one is 'not right''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanglen Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 My girl had to have the rare type of DI too, just my luck! She had partial partiutary DI and so went through periods with the desmopressin eye drops and periods with no medications at all. Very severe salt restrictions in diet thou. Oh and yes it definately crept up on us, was possibly happening for a little while before we noticed which dog was drinking more and then was able to get the exact diagnosis made, it's not exactly common! The water diabetes in greyhounds I have always understood to be a different condition. DI is usually referred to as salt diabetes. There are heaps of different reasons to cause excessive drinking and urination and certainly a blood profile is the way to go! Best of luck Alanglen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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