rastus_froggy Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I would like to know more about training my dogs and possibly in the future train other peoples dogs, what are the best courses out there to undertake? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdude Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) The N.D.T.F course is probably the most popular. You will have to travel to Melbourne for a couple of block sessions though as I understand it. Edited January 22, 2008 by dogdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastus_froggy Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Cool, I received an info pack from them yesterday and their course sounds great. Just wasnt sure if there was much else out there. Looks like they may be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 What about the Australian Dog Trainers Academy? Anyone have thoughts/comments/experience with them? Sorry to hijack your thread RF, but the 5 - 10 hours per weeks I find myself helping out other LGD breed owners, I'm thinking I should explore some accreditation instead of just chaos experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Delta Society offer a higher qualification than the NDTF and many vets use these qualifications in my area anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 They offer different qualifications. Delta offers Cert IV in Companion Animal Services NDTF offers Certificate III in Dog Behaviour and Training Look into both and see which one suits you better. I really enjoyed NDTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 They offer different qualifications.Delta offers Cert IV in Companion Animal Services NDTF offers Certificate III in Dog Behaviour and Training Look into both and see which one suits you better. I really enjoyed NDTF Thanks Helen and Kavik I'm looking into helping train/start LGDs for stock work both pups and adults, and problems encountered during ownership etc - hmm will see what the courses have to offer ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Just so you know lilli- the delta course docuses on positive reinforcement only training while the NDTF course it a bit broader. I do know people who have loved the delta course but i think it depends what type of training you want to do and what dogs your dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 What is a LGD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Livestock guarding dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Just so you know lilli- the delta course docuses on positive reinforcement only training while the NDTF course it a bit broader. I do know people who have loved the delta course but i think it depends what type of training you want to do and what dogs your dealing with. thanks cosmolo - is NDTF the only course that looks at all theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 AFAIK its the only course that offers government recognised qualifications that covers all theories...thats why I chose it (Haven might come on and correct me on the use of the word 'qualifications' as opposed to 'accreditation' as she did once in the past....I can't remember exactly what she said, but I think it is that the course itself is government accredited, but the trainer ends up with qualifications....?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastus_froggy Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 I have sent off my application to NDTF now so I will just have to wait and see if I get accepted and go from there!! What is AFAIK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 What is AFAIK? As Far As I Know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayrod Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Top Dog K9 Trainers Academy will be conducting another course commencing in March. Contact phone number is: 1300 K9 TRAINING or 1300 598 724. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Unless you are happy to do a highly recommended course for personal development only, like the ones offered by K9 Force for example, check completion of the course you are interested in will result in a nationally recognised qualification. The only ones that currently do to my knowledge are the Certificate IV in Companion Animal Services offered by Delta and the Certificate III in Dog Behaviour and Training offered by NDTF in conjunction with Precise Training. From there I would just research as much as you can in order to decide which is for you. I haven't done the Delta course so I can't comment on whether or not it is any good, but I would only recommend it if you were only interested in learning about and applying the so called "positive only" style of training. If you are interstate from Victoria both courses will require you to travel to and stay in Vic for two blocks of practical training. The Delta course is a bit more expensive, but includes the cost of accommodation during the practical training blocks. I believe though that you are also expected to purchase a number of training books as course materials on top of the course fees, can anyone who has done the Delta course confirm? ROM, your terminology is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayrod Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Australian Dog Trainers Academy also have an Nationally accredited course 'Conduct Companion Animal Training Classes RUV4512A'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Remember to think about what you want to be qualified to do- i did the NDTF course because i wanted to have a cert that had behavioural components recognised as well as wanting to learn about all the elements of training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 (edited) Australian Dog Trainers Academy also have an Nationally accredited course 'Conduct Companion Animal Training Classes RUV4512A'. That sounds like a module or component, rather than a course. With the Delta run course you certainly learn about the different methods of operant conditioning etc. They just have ideas about which of those techniques they consider are safe and humane for dogs, in relation to your average Joe Citizen dog owner. The Delta course is fashioned from a different angle, and has other facets- Pet Partners, Canine Good Citizen Award and Delta Dog Safe programs. So it needs to compliment and run in line as such. Mel. Edited January 23, 2008 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Australian Dog Trainers Academy also have an Nationally accredited course 'Conduct Companion Animal Training Classes RUV4512A'. That sounds like a module or component, rather than a course. It is. RUV4512 Conduct Companion Animal Training Classes is included in both the NDTF and Delta courses. It is a single module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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