Eileen Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I don't really understand how the OP's getting welfare has any bearing on this thread Good luck with your pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 When I first got Kaos he growled and tried to bite when picked up and when I cut nails. I was like What have I gotten myself in for! He is a tough, pushy dog at times and lots of work, but lots of fun Now that I have done more work with him and help from K9 Force we are on the way to having a go at agility and herding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I too beleive that this person should not be discriminated against because of her age or personal situation. She is entitled to have 2 dogs jsut like anyone else. Like she said she saved for it, just because she is a single mother does not mean she doesnt have the right to save and spend stuff on herself! I think she has done the right thing by at least coming and trying to get some help... Leave age and personal situations out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBella Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 ash&elar, I'm sorry you have been picked on with regards to your age, sex and what has happened to you . I was going to post last night but was working.The rest of the posters, some of you are being ageist, sexist and elitist in your remarks ash&elar. This is not the place for personal attacks this is a dog help forum. My 2 cents worth BellasPerson thank you so very much. like i said i have now found help else where, really appreciate your kind words. I am happy that the puppy has settled in and stopped growling . I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but this forum has really good moderators. The forum rules are listed near the top of the page. For future reference, if someone posts something like a personal attack that breaks the rules, go to the bottom on the post and hit the Report button. It is much better to do this than to respond to nasty comments. Troy will read the topic and remove offending responses and/or warn the posters. Good luck with your pup BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 I don't really understand how the OP's getting welfare has any bearing on this thread Good luck with your pup. thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 When I first got Kaos he growled and tried to bite when picked up and when I cut nails. I was like What have I gotten myself in for!He is a tough, pushy dog at times and lots of work, but lots of fun Now that I have done more work with him and help from K9 Force we are on the way to having a go at agility and herding. i am planning on doing obediance and agility with him, keep him socialised and exercised! he already follows me everywhere. thank you for your helpful response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 I too beleive that this person should not be discriminated against because of her age or personal situation. She is entitled to have 2 dogs jsut like anyone else. Like she said she saved for it, just because she is a single mother does not mean she doesnt have the right to save and spend stuff on herself! I think she has done the right thing by at least coming and trying to get some help... Leave age and personal situations out of it! thank you very much, good to see there is some ppl here who can give good advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 ash&elar, I'm sorry you have been picked on with regards to your age, sex and what has happened to you . I was going to post last night but was working.The rest of the posters, some of you are being ageist, sexist and elitist in your remarks ash&elar. This is not the place for personal attacks this is a dog help forum. My 2 cents worth BellasPerson thank you so very much. like i said i have now found help else where, really appreciate your kind words. I am happy that the puppy has settled in and stopped growling . I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but this forum has really good moderators. The forum rules are listed near the top of the page. For future reference, if someone posts something like a personal attack that breaks the rules, go to the bottom on the post and hit the Report button. It is much better to do this than to respond to nasty comments. Troy will read the topic and remove offending responses and/or warn the posters. Good luck with your pup BP thank you i think he will be fine as i said im going to do obedience and agility with him, keep him socialised and exercised! yes i think ill do that if it happens again. kind regards ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBella Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Regarding your question on appropriate dicipline for your pup. I asked K9 Force this question for Bruno and he has posted a puppy development topic which discusses this. It was 5-9 months. Worthwhile reading. Puppy development calendar BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baifra Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Good luck with your new dog!! He sounds like a handful. Sounds like you have done your homework and will do good by him. I admire you for being such a young mother. Takes a lot of guts to walk away from someone you know can only hurt you. Doing it alone is tough and good luck with midwifery. Nursing is a great profession!!! Like you said, you came here for some advice and not a tongue lashing!! Take the good advice and run with it and ignore the rest. Not worth worrying about. only you know how well you treat your dogs and children and that all that matters in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERKAZ Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) Looks like I am coming in for a serve. I know you didn't ask for "life advice" but hey, the world is full of people with good advice! Thankfully, as I said, you have the freedom to ignore it and tell them all and me to shove it. Hopefully you also have the maturity to take on board those parts of it that might be relevant for you. Ash, I am not discriminating against you. Your situation and age is what it is. What it does do is give some indication of the level of good judgement you have exercised so far in life. Don't get defensive, it's true. Accept it. Learn from it. The great thing about our past mistakes is that we don't have to repeat them. By the sounds of it you're trying to do that, but questioning why you would further burden your limited time and resources with another dog is not an outrageous thing to do. Obviously you are doing your best to be a good mother to your kids and to improve yourself by getting new skills in mid-wifery - these are admirable things and show strength of character, but you'll not do yourself any favours by overburdening yourself time-wise or financially. It is all well and good to say Leave age and personal situations out of it! but they are pretty good indicators of how well the person will cope and the level of maturity they will bring to the issue. So far Ash you have only appreciated those who defend, support or agree with you. That's natural I guess, but at least as far as I am concerned, what I posted was out of concern, not a desire to belittle or criticise. When I was 19, I was in diabolical difficulties on various fronts. The misjudgements of our youth often create the hardships that frame our character as adults. Good luck with the pup, the kids and the course. [ Edited January 15, 2008 by SUPERKAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Regarding your question on appropriate dicipline for your pup. I asked K9 Force this question for Bruno and he has posted a puppy development topic which discusses this. It was 5-9 months. Worthwhile reading. Puppy development calendarBP ok thank you i will read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Good luck with your new dog!! He sounds like a handful. Sounds like you have done your homework and will do good by him.I admire you for being such a young mother. Takes a lot of guts to walk away from someone you know can only hurt you. Doing it alone is tough and good luck with midwifery. Nursing is a great profession!!! Like you said, you came here for some advice and not a tongue lashing!! Take the good advice and run with it and ignore the rest. Not worth worrying about. only you know how well you treat your dogs and children and that all that matters in the end. thank you very much, i was quite hurt by some of the remarks, i am young and a young mum but that doesnt make me any worse at it than anyone else, i have prob been thro alot more than most ppl and i do have my head on right. once again thank you so very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Looks like I am coming in for a serve. I know you didn't ask for "life advice" but hey, the world is full of people with good advice! Thankfully, as I said, you have the freedom to ignore it and tell them all and me to shove it. Hopefully you also have the maturity to take on board those parts of it that might be relevant for you. Ash, I am not discriminating against you. Your situation and age is what it is. What it does do is give some indication of the level of good judgement you have exercised so far in life. Don't get defensive, it's true. Accept it. Learn from it. The great thing about our past mistakes is that we don't have to repeat them. By the sounds of it you're trying to do that, but questioning why you would further burden your limited time and resources with another dog is not an outrageous thing to do. Obviously you are doing your best to be a good mother to your kids and to improve yourself by getting new skills in mid-wifery - these are admirable things and show strength of character, but you'll not do yourself any favours by overburdening yourself time-wise or financially. It is all well and good to say Leave age and personal situations out of it! but they are pretty good indicators of how well the person will cope and the level of maturity they will bring to the issue. So far Ash you have only appreciated those who defend, support or agree with you. That's natural I guess, but at least as far as I am concerned, what I posted was out of concern, not a desire to belittle or criticise. When I was 19, I was in diabolical difficulties on various fronts. The misjudgements of our youth often create the hardships that frame our character as adults. Good luck with the pup, the kids and the course. [ Its not a good indicator at all, you cant judge a book by its cover, therefore you can not judge a person by their age..... Just because you experience certain things in your life does not mean its the same for everyone else that age... Who cares if she has made mistakes in her past, that is her business and not anyones on here, personal circumstances should never have been brought into it, I would get defensive too if people had a go at me for my life decisions, especially when I came on here for some advice on dog behaviour! She is the only one that knows if she can handle two kids and two dogs, by the sounds of it she gets good help from family, she sounds like she is doing right by this dog and will continue to do right by this dog... However a puppy growling and nipping at that age is not on and I would definatly speak to someone professional about this, try ADT they come out and do home visits for around $80....well worth it to nip it in the butt now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Looks like I am coming in for a serve. I know you didn't ask for "life advice" but hey, the world is full of people with good advice! Thankfully, as I said, you have the freedom to ignore it and tell them all and me to shove it. Hopefully you also have the maturity to take on board those parts of it that might be relevant for you. Ash, I am not discriminating against you. Your situation and age is what it is. What it does do is give some indication of the level of good judgement you have exercised so far in life. Don't get defensive, it's true. Accept it. Learn from it. The great thing about our past mistakes is that we don't have to repeat them. By the sounds of it you're trying to do that, but questioning why you would further burden your limited time and resources with another dog is not an outrageous thing to do. Obviously you are doing your best to be a good mother to your kids and to improve yourself by getting new skills in mid-wifery - these are admirable things and show strength of character, but you'll not do yourself any favours by overburdening yourself time-wise or financially. It is all well and good to say Leave age and personal situations out of it! but they are pretty good indicators of how well the person will cope and the level of maturity they will bring to the issue. So far Ash you have only appreciated those who defend, support or agree with you. That's natural I guess, but at least as far as I am concerned, what I posted was out of concern, not a desire to belittle or criticise. When I was 19, I was in diabolical difficulties on various fronts. The misjudgements of our youth often create the hardships that frame our character as adults. Good luck with the pup, the kids and the course. [ i have taken the bad with the good, but do you have any idea what it is like when ur whole life is critized? i am a single mum because i fell in love at 16 to the wrong guy not because im a hooker who stands on the corner, my biggest life desitions so far have been to love a man older than me, move out, keep my pregnancy and become a mum at 17 and then 19 and in between them leave the father whom was abusing me, and along the way get 2 dogs! think of me what you will, and you are right i do have a strong willed character which means i will do what i put my mind to which inclueds doing all i can to make a good dog out of my pup conan, my lab had problems when i got her at 12weeks now she is very well rounded individual, age and a persons personal situation isnt a very good indication of much at all in my experiance but that is my opinion. all this is off topic anyway, all i wanted to know was how to disapline him so i didnt make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Looks like I am coming in for a serve. I know you didn't ask for "life advice" but hey, the world is full of people with good advice! Thankfully, as I said, you have the freedom to ignore it and tell them all and me to shove it. Hopefully you also have the maturity to take on board those parts of it that might be relevant for you. Ash, I am not discriminating against you. Your situation and age is what it is. What it does do is give some indication of the level of good judgement you have exercised so far in life. Don't get defensive, it's true. Accept it. Learn from it. The great thing about our past mistakes is that we don't have to repeat them. By the sounds of it you're trying to do that, but questioning why you would further burden your limited time and resources with another dog is not an outrageous thing to do. Obviously you are doing your best to be a good mother to your kids and to improve yourself by getting new skills in mid-wifery - these are admirable things and show strength of character, but you'll not do yourself any favours by overburdening yourself time-wise or financially. It is all well and good to say Leave age and personal situations out of it! but they are pretty good indicators of how well the person will cope and the level of maturity they will bring to the issue. So far Ash you have only appreciated those who defend, support or agree with you. That's natural I guess, but at least as far as I am concerned, what I posted was out of concern, not a desire to belittle or criticise. When I was 19, I was in diabolical difficulties on various fronts. The misjudgements of our youth often create the hardships that frame our character as adults. Good luck with the pup, the kids and the course. [ Its not a good indicator at all, you cant judge a book by its cover, therefore you can not judge a person by their age..... Just because you experience certain things in your life does not mean its the same for everyone else that age... Who cares if she has made mistakes in her past, that is her business and not anyones on here, personal circumstances should never have been brought into it, I would get defensive too if people had a go at me for my life decisions, especially when I came on here for some advice on dog behaviour! She is the only one that knows if she can handle two kids and two dogs, by the sounds of it she gets good help from family, she sounds like she is doing right by this dog and will continue to do right by this dog... However a puppy growling and nipping at that age is not on and I would definatly speak to someone professional about this, try ADT they come out and do home visits for around $80....well worth it to nip it in the butt now! thank you. 80 bucks sounds pretty cheap. thank you for the helpful response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevafollo Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) i dont care if u are black white puple 19, 50 or 100 single mum or happily married with 30 kids... my issue with this whole thing is u had been a member here for over two months and went out and bought a mutt.... an overly priced mutt at that!!!you would have thought you would have learnt something her but obviously not!!! people that cross any sort of big bull breed piss me off and the people that buy them even more so, why? because the breeders of these dogs dont take into consideration temperment all they see is dollar signs, breeders like that and purchasers like you are the reason so many dogs are at risk of being ban under bsl.... from what ive read and seen of american bull dogs they can be a handful and have very uneven temps and then some bright spark decided to go cross it with some thing else? sorry about how blunt im being but when it comes to issues like this it really drives me nuts Edited January 15, 2008 by sammy_ballerina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 i dont care if u are black white puple 19, 50 or 100 single mom or happily married with 30 kids...my issue with this whole thing is u had been a member here for over two months and went out and bought a mutt.... an overly priced mutt at that!!! people that cross any sort of big bull breed piss me off and the people that buy them even more so, why? because the breeders of these dogs dont take into consideration temperment all they see is dollar signs, breeders like that and purchasers like you are the reason so many dogs are at risk of being ban under bsl.... from what ive read and seen of american bull dogs they can be a handful and have very uneven temps and then some bright spark decided to go cross it with some thing else? sorry about how blunt im being but when it comes to issues like this it really drives me nuts What happened to a dog is what you make it? Your a member too and you should know not to classify certain breeds as having uneven temprements, you own an Amm Staff correct, well a lot of people say things about them as a breed aswell...please dont classify certain breeds as having uneven temps its not a fair statement at all The fact that is a cross breed has no baring on this issue either... Lets get back on topic or close the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash&elar Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 i dont care if u are black white puple 19, 50 or 100 single mom or happily married with 30 kids...my issue with this whole thing is u had been a member here for over two months and went out and bought a mutt.... an overly priced mutt at that!!! people that cross any sort of big bull breed piss me off and the people that buy them even more so, why? because the breeders of these dogs dont take into consideration temperment all they see is dollar signs, breeders like that and purchasers like you are the reason so many dogs are at risk of being ban under bsl.... from what ive read and seen of american bull dogs they can be a handful and have very uneven temps and then some bright spark decided to go cross it with some thing else? sorry about how blunt im being but when it comes to issues like this it really drives me nuts What happened to a dog is what you make it? Your a member too and you should know not to classify certain breeds as having uneven temprements, you own an Amm Staff correct, well a lot of people say things about them as a breed aswell...please dont classify certain breeds as having uneven temps its not a fair statement at all The fact that is a cross breed has no baring on this issue either... Lets get back on topic or close the thread thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I suggest you give ADT a call, my friend used them and said they were great with her dog... Here is their website if you have not already looked! http://www.australiandogtraining.com.au/ Goodluck and lets us know how you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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