KatrinaM Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 If any body here belongs to a Victorian Schutzhund club could they please PM me. There is somebody making some rather big claims about their dogs ability at training, maybe its a world beater, maybe he is fibbing, I am not sure. I also did not beleive cross bred dogs were able to be trained or compete in the sport. Is this different in other states? Cheers Katrina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybeece Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I also did not beleive cross bred dogs were able to be trained or compete in the sport. Is this different in other states? I don't participate in schutzhund, but did look into it some time ago and I *think* cross breeds actually are allowed to participate in attack training (if their temperament is up to it), however they're not allowed to compete. I'm in Victoria too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 That is correct Jaybeece the person would be allowed to train with the club but not be able to trial. KatrinaM shoot me a pm with the persons name and what club it is they train at and I will see if I can find anything out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 (edited) Hi KatrinaM. If someone is sprouting egotistically about what their dog can do, what presents as the real problem? Many people sprout off about their abilities, achievements etc. Even people in public standing ..... And it is not exclusive to the dog world. I'm presuming there is a real point behind your questioning and that it is for some benefit to someone or somedogs? Edited January 8, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 If someone is sprouting egotistically about what their dog can do, what presents as the real problem? Many people sprout off about their abilities, achievements etc. Even people in public standing ..... And it is not exclusive to the dog world. I agree Erny, this persons dogs wouldnt be as good as mine anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I agree Erny, this persons dogs wouldnt be as good as mine anyway. :D And I suppose you have your dog's permission to say so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Yes, I am actually getting them to type my reply's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Yes, I am actually getting them to type my reply's. Pffft ! That's nothing. Now, if you could bring your dogs over to do my housework, THEN I'd class them as "world beaters" and you as "righteously egotistical" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 :rolleyes: I will send them around after they have finished washing my cars and doing the shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 :rolleyes: Erny puts feet up and lounges back, in full confidence that her chores will be taken care of ....... They serve wine and peel grapes, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramet Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 i dont mean to be rude to any one but i hate it when people say attack work/training its protection work/training the reason is it gives some people the wrong impression of what the sport is about same with security training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 They serve wine and peel grapes, don't they? Sure, aslong as you dont mind dog hair on the grapes. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 They serve wine and peel grapes, don't they? Sure, aslong as you dont mind dog hair on the grapes. :rolleyes: Oh. Ok. So training isn't quite complete, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybeece Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 i dont mean to be rude to any one but i hate it when people say attack work/trainingits protection work/training the reason is it gives some people the wrong impression of what the sport is about same with security training Sorry :rolleyes: I'm not up with Schutzhund lingo, but wanted to answer the OP's question. Although if the dog IS being trained to attack then I don't see why it's a terrible thing to refer to it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 i dont mean to be rude to any one but i hate it when people say attack work/trainingits protection work/training the reason is it gives some people the wrong impression of what the sport is about same with security training Sorry :rolleyes: I'm not up with Schutzhund lingo, but wanted to answer the OP's question. Although if the dog IS being trained to attack then I don't see why it's a terrible thing to refer to it as such. That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cramet Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 schutzhund, knpv,security,police k9s and a few other dog sports are all about protecting the handler no one wants a dog to attack any one but to protect some one is different i dont mean to come across arigant(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatrinaM Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 I wouldnt care a fig if they werent using it as a selling point for pups. It is not fair to make claims like that and potentially disappoint buyers. Cheers Katrina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 schutzhund, .............are all about protecting the handler People continunally keep forgetting that IPO and Sch consist of 3 areas of dog training Obedience Tracking and Bite work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luccio Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thats right myszka schutzhund is a sport that has three phases to it. It is a very complex sport and only the very dedicated ones get results,even many so called dog trainers struggle successfully put together all the three parts tracking, obedience and the character work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I'm with Erny, who cares if people brag about their dogs loudly and unnecessarily. I just switch off when this happens. In saying this, watch out for some photo brags from me coming soon as soon as I work out photo bucket LOL Can someone set me straight here, I thought the Schutzhund 'protection' work is really called Character Work. It is a test of the dog's character/courage rather than teaching to attack or hurt or even, to a degree, protect. That is how I understand it. it's nothing macho or anything silly, it's a sincere test of the dog's courage. Well that's what I thought. If it's Sch. anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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