Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Have there been any known cases of Parvo in VIC lately? I get my new pup on the 30th and still not sure what places to avoid when I take him out for socialisation. ETA - also how safe are puppy schools at vets? Edited December 18, 2007 by Tess32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asalei Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Maybe ring up the vets in your local area and ask them if they know of any current parvo outbreaks. I know I rang my vet a few weeks ago to ask about human parvo virus and they informed me that there was an outbreak in Brisbane at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toohey Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 When my latest pup came home, being summer, Parvo was rife. She did most of her socialising in a bag hanging off my shoulder I would not take a pup to a vet puppy school. I actually found a very good obedience school that ran outdoor puppy classes on a private property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 The puppy school that I went to made sure that all the puppies attending were vaccinated. We were also encouraged to carry our puppy from the car to the backyard area of the vet where puppy school was held to make sure that the pups weren't going to catch anything from any unvaccinated dogs that had been running around the front area of the vet. Only vaccinated pups were allowed in the backyard area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Unfortunately there are hardly any puppy schools open over the January break. The only one I've found that's open and near me is the Paw Behaviour people (Jenny), which is at a vet in Frankston. How about the beach, high or low risk? Also anything else you can do to minimise risk? I was planning on carrying him everywhere anyway. Edited December 18, 2007 by Tess32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldD Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I live close and called every vet around the area. Seaford, Carrum Cheslea Mt Eliza - no parvo in 2 years, Frankston 1 .5 years ago. Parvo stays around for 3 years after being infected, grass, sand etc. The beach is one area to totally steer clear of, especially in summer as there are so many dogs exposed to it leaving behind all types of germs etc. Not worth the risk! After having his 12 week injection (10 days later) I did allow him to walk on concreted areas, drove to the shopping centre etc and that was great with his human socialisation too. Not allowing him to go near potentially dirty areas eg. corners of buildings etc. Carrying him around is great and no problems but don't know what type of dog you are getting but my golden ret. wsa a 10kilo sqirming pup who always wanted to get down! Remember too that if you have other dogs and are at the beach and parks there is also a risk he/she and you can bring parvo home on your feet. Another risk you need to weigh up if you have another dog. My other poor boy has been under house arrest for 8 weeks so far! My pup gets his 16 week injection tomorrow and we are counting down the days to the 30th December where we can take him to the beach & river which is 2 minutes away! We did go to a puppy school at our local vet for 4 weeks having just finished on Monday. We found it to be informative however had differing opinions on various things but definately got some very valuable information. As you say almost everything is closed from now through to mid January as far as puppy schools go. Good luck with puppy Noah and steer clear of those beaches and parks! As frustrating as it is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Thanks, appreciate all that I didn't realise the beach was so risky! Noah is a Collie Rough so he's big but not TOO big to carry. To be honest it feels kinda hopeless trying to protect against parvo when it lives soooo long in the soil and I have two other dogs! So far my plan is puppy school (it's at Beach St. Vet....maybe I should ask if THEY have had a parvo case?), and carry him into some of the pet shops around mornington, as well as my mum's work (nursing home). I live in Seaford and I think it's an ok area re dogs in that most would be vaccinated so I'm not overly concerned about my own dogs tramping in parvo, but they have been to the beach lately, but only Seaford. I'll stick to my dogs only walking around the block now then. It's hard not to get paranoid. I've been waiting for so long for him I'd be inconsolable if anything happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 CRAP. The vet I am booked into for puppy school has had a parvo case THIS MORNING. Puppy died. So there is parvo in Frankston. I don't know what to do now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Yep it is a catch 22, there has been other cases of Parvo in Frankston recently so it is around. You can do alot with Noah at home though- exposing him to different surfaces to walk on, different noises, he will have Reilly and Ebony to socialise with( what more could Noah want Lol!). I haven't taken any of my Collies to puppy pre-school as the risk is far too high IMHO- You can always have friends bring their vaccinated dogs over to play( and if like me you are worried about the risk of infection have the owners take off their shoes and leave them outside your house, wash their hands with Dettol hand wash and spray their dogs lightly with Glen20- that is what I did and I know a few other Collie people swear by spraying with Glen20) Good luck with Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 How does Parvo travel? Is washing hands and removing shoes enough? Would visiting dogs have to be bathed or treated somehow before hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Travels on anything, hair, clothes, everything. Extremely robust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 The parvo bug is so bloomin' tough - damn awful thing! I know all about being paranoid - I was a little OTT with Zig but it was worth it. I carried him EVERYWHERE and boy did I get some pretty good arm muscles I had him sit on my lap when we went out for coffee - I'm surprised the little rascal knew how to walk when I finally let him use his own legs. He got so much exposure this way, though, and is really well socialised I've heard that some breeders don't vaccinate their puppies against parvo because they have don't think it's around ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^^PIP^^ Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 There have been several reports of Coronavirus in and around the Kingston/Bayside areas recently, and a parvo outbreak in the western suburbs, that I know of. With our recent litter of rescue pups, they had their initial C3 vacc at 6 weeks, and their final C5 at 10 weeks - which is awsome, becuase that leaves you 4 (allow 2 weeks for vacc to kick in) weeks of being able to socialise your pup, being fully vaccinated. This vaccination schedule is failry new I believe, and everyone will have varying opinions about it , but it certainly worked for us - we were able to start socialising them from 12 weeks - taking them to puppy school (thanks cosmolo) as well as starting walks, going to the beach etc etc all during the critical period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I don't know if this is any help to you but we have puppy school in Sth Melbourne starting on the 5th and Ormond likely on the 12th January? Bit far i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 For those who fully vaccinate, how long do you wait before taking your pup out into the world? (even handbag/carried pups would come into contact with people, patting hands and so on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 You still should take them places - 8-12 weeks is the main socialisation period with rapid learning. They need to meet many people or they can end up shy/timid and well undersocialised. Risk is pretty low to hands, but I'll be taking shoes off in the house now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Thanks for the advice. I like the idea of 10 week shot, then you can still socialise from 12-16 weeks and hopefully no fear period during that time! I think I will not go to the puppy school, it is not worth the risk. I will carry him places though so he can meet strangers and he'll just have to sit on my lap. I know they can still get parvo as vaccinated dogs - is it still risky to take him to certain places by 12 weeks if he's had a 10 week shot? Is parvo not as bad on an older puppy? Thankfully I'm already fine with the training puppy aspect so I don't need that from puppy school, I was just hoping for socialisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldD Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I absolutely agree with you.....do not go to that puppy school! If they have had parvo in the vet I would steer clear. Amazing how in 7 weeks since my ring around it has reared its ugly head. My vet was adamant no beaches until 10 days after the 16 week vaccination. So glad I listened after hearing of the outbreaks - they do say summer is the time it's rife! Would hate to get to 16 weeks and have him catch it just before his vaccs. I would keep him at home and seriously consider keeping all the other dogs in too, is it really worth it? It's amazing what you can find around home to keep all the dogs occupied. I re-discovered my back yard! LOL Ormond is only 20 mins up the road from you, so might be worth a trip, or at least ask which vet the prescool is being held and check them about parvo cases prior to going. I know all pups in these classes must have all vaccinations up to date and IMO the risk was worth it for him to socialise with all diffrerent types of pups other than the older dog we have in our backyard. Thank god for our vaccination tomorrow, this parvo has made me a paranoid mess and fingers crossed we have made it through the 16 week gateway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I'm glad I'm not the only paranoid one! I really had no idea beaches were bad or that summer made it worse There is a puppy school in Tyabb but I THINK it's on grass.....? I'll also ask at my own vet (sandy vet clinic) to see if they have any classes or any parvo cases *sigh* Good luck to you, it wil be a huge relief for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyr Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I don't know whether trains of thought change over the years but when we got our Sheltie pup years ago the breeder advised us to keep her home til the vaccinations kicked in. We were fine with that and our pup was fine. Lived a normal, happy life. Not quite sure if things would be different if I had a young pup in my life at this time. Sometimes I wonder if there is too much information available and sometimes common sense just goes out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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