Flaves Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I have searched and came up with one thread- GSDLoverfound it - itsays toomuch kelp is bad but not how much is too much. I give my gsd pup 2 kelp tablets a day to improve his pigmentation as he still has some pink on his nose. It is darkening a lot and i think in another month or so it will be totally black. i just want to make sure he is not being overdosed. It is natures own brand. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Bumping - anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Chery knoll his nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyBeggs Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hi mate......thanks for posting this. Someone at Kepala told me they knew of something to blacken the pigment on Ranger's nose and would PM me........ now I know it is kelp! I will start him on it too........although maybe on the powder from the produce store, I imagine it would work out cheaper. I used to give my black lab a heaped teasspoon of livermol (which is kelp based) and a tablespoon of seaweed kelp everyday.......and it never effected him. Did keep his coat pitch black until he was about 9yo. Works great to darken colour on horses too, especially chestnuts that sunbleach! So just watch it on your baby, it may darken his coat! cheers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 In Dr I an Billinghursts book Give your dog a bone he recommends a kelp tablet daily for your average 20kg dog to ensure it receives adequate iodine for functioning of the thyroid gland Over-zealous administration of iodine can be toxic to your dog.It causes the thyroid to shut down production of the thyroid hormone and your dogs whole metabolism slows down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyBeggs Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 In Dr I an Billinghursts book Give your dog a bone he recommends a kelp tablet daily for your average 20kg dog to ensure it receives adequate iodine for functioning of the thyroid glandOver-zealous administration of iodine can be toxic to your dog.It causes the thyroid to shut down production of the thyroid hormone and your dogs whole metabolism slows down thanks for that....i had never heard of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 If you are feeding dry food it may be a good idea to check the iodine levels in that prior to feeding kelp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyBeggs Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I dont feed much dry food.... but something to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoochie Mama Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Care needs to be exercised when including minerals within a canine or feline diet, since some minerals, whilst essential in small quantities, can be toxic if fed in excessive amounts. For example, the mineral iodine is needed in small amounts to prevent thyroid problems in dogs and cats but it can be detrimental to them - causing anorexia, fever and weight loss - if fed in excessive amounts. Sometimes excessive mineral levels can be fed without the pet owner realising that the potential for a problem to occur exists. For example, supplementing the diet with large amounts of kelp meal, which is very high in iodine, can result in excessive iodine intake. http://www.4legs.com.au/wellness.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoochie Mama Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Previous DOL thread on Kelp: http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=21230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbiemax71 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I got this info out of my "Give Your Dog A Bone - Ian Billinghurst" book KelpIt is a valuable source of a number of minerals, but most particularly IODINE. It contains 15% Sodium, 13% Potassium, 3% Calcium, with trace amounts of IODINE, manganese, magnesium, copper, phosphorus, zinc, cobalt, chromium and molybdenum. A kelp tablet daily for your average 20kg dog will ensure it gets adequate iodine for the functioning of the thyroid gland. this is essential for growing puppies, reproducing animals and for all other dogs. A healthy, well nourished (with iodine) thyroid ensures your dog's metabolism ticks over at the right speed. Over-zealous administration of iodine can be toxic to your dog. It causes the thyroid to shut down production of thyroid hormone and your dog's whole metabolism slows down. I suspect bones are also a good source of iodine because i have raised many dogs on raw meaty bones with very little of anything else and there have been no problems with these dogs so far as their thyroid function was concerned. I doesn't say though what size a kelp tablet is, also keep in mind this is for dogs fed BARF. My dogs are fed BARF, I give them kelp a couple of times a week, they get kelp powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Paws Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) Blue Ribbon Coat enhancer is supposed to darken mask etc and contains kelp http://www.pawzazzpetz.com.au/gpage10.html Can also buy powdered kelp for dogs here.They recommend 1/2 teas day for kelpie size http://www.callicoma.com.au/supplem1.htm. I've brought a fair bit from this lady and she's really good to deal with Edited December 18, 2007 by 4 Paws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Chery knoll his nose What is that? Like a cream or powder? Thanks all for the help. The food i am feeding does not have all teh vits and mins listed. I am giving himi 1 a day from now on not 2. And will keep a close eye on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 My new pup has a quite pink nose (the surrounding bit rather than the nose). It is slowly changing to black. I got absolutely savaged last week because I said I didn't want to feed kelp. Got told I didn't care about my dog, so it is a bit of a sore point to me! Kelp is just a multi-vitamin/mineral type supplement. Good to balance a diet but not needed IMO if you need a quality food. I did check Eagle Pack's web page and it does have kelp in it anyway, for any Eagle Pack feeders. I did feed kelp and brewers yeast when I did full on BARF. I really think it is important to be informed about what various feed stuffs do and the effects rather than feeding stuff because Joeblow said to. (not saying you did this Kristie, but the guy that gave me a hard time certainly did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 THe people on DOL have been pretty good. I was feeding a super premium food that caused Daire to grow too quickly. He is now on a different food, and i have been advised that kelp and livamol is the way to go by breeders who have been breeding for many years I ummed annd aahed about changing his food to a food with less additives and good stuff for ages and caused him more pain. In feeding the kelp for a month i have noticed a HUGE improvement in his over all pigment. On his nose but also his coat. I am happy with it just wanted to know i was not giving too much. I have always agreed that a balanced diet should not need anything else. But in this case although he had a balanced and dgood diet he needed a boost and hte kelp has done that. Good luck with your pup. I am also going to be zincing his nose until it is all black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I've hedged my bets - half super premium and half BARF. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 I've hedged my bets - half super premium and half BARF. lol. Well done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peigirl Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Kristie I was at the holistic vet just a fortnight ago. She suggested 1/2 tsp for my boy (whose 24kg) per day. He is on a restricted diet due to food intolerances and she was concerned about his mineral intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 Kristie I was at the holistic vet just a fortnight ago. She suggested 1/2 tsp for my boy (whose 24kg) per day. He is on a restricted diet due to food intolerances and she was concerned about his mineral intake. Thanks heaps for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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