country joe Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I have had a dog that started to show the marking trait when working. I did the following steps. Took the dog out of run and onto lead. quick bit of healing then released and told toilet. After a couple of minutes back on lead and more heal work. Then moved up to healing past distraction "where he had marked when released". Then recalled passed distraction point. Next retrieve past distraction point. Moved to area when other dogs had been to toilet. Same process. Out of car on lead quick heal work, toilet and then more heal work. Heal work past distraction, (a bush or tree that had been used by other dogs.) Progressed to recall past and then retrieve past. I think it took me about 3 weeks to get to this point and I had a weekly session at it for another month or two. The dog had only started to show this trait and it was stopped quickly. If the dog had had this trait for any amount of time I think this it would become a maintenance issue. (Something you continue to work at the keep the desired response) Country joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStarPits Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 It must be hard bordering on impossible to train a dog out of deep rooted instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have had a dog that started to show the marking trait when working. I did the following steps.Took the dog out of run and onto lead. quick bit of healing then released and told toilet. After a couple of minutes back on lead and more heal work. Then moved up to healing past distraction "where he had marked when released". Then recalled passed distraction point. Next retrieve past distraction point. Moved to area when other dogs had been to toilet. Same process. Out of car on lead quick heal work, toilet and then more heal work. Heal work past distraction, (a bush or tree that had been used by other dogs.) Progressed to recall past and then retrieve past. I think it took me about 3 weeks to get to this point and I had a weekly session at it for another month or two. The dog had only started to show this trait and it was stopped quickly. If the dog had had this trait for any amount of time I think this it would become a maintenance issue. (Something you continue to work at the keep the desired response) Country joe Hey CJ, did you simplify training initially also? Did your problematic dog pee on the way to a retrieve or on the way back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ons Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Onslow squats, has never lifted his leg, he was desexed at 4 months of age my old female maltese RIP used to lift her leg on everything when we were out walking Flash, now desexed, lifts his leg but I don't let him lift it on anything and everything. If we are out walking and he goes to lift it on a car tyre for example a quick tug of the lead and a "no" as I continue to walk stops anything happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country joe Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Lablover He started on the way back. Simplified everything. When I took him back to a trial I had him recall through part of the exercise area. then retrieve from the exercise area. I have never had a dog that had a deep seated problem with this. If I did I would use the same process and keep the maintenance up. I would possibly try using a checkcord. Depending on the dog. Country joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 LabloverHe started on the way back. Simplified everything. When I took him back to a trial I had him recall through part of the exercise area. then retrieve from the exercise area. I have never had a dog that had a deep seated problem with this. If I did I would use the same process and keep the maintenance up. I would possibly try using a checkcord. Depending on the dog. Country joe. Ta, CJ. So and so, had to number two today while swimming back from a retrieve. Did he stop, no, just left floaters. Hey currently watching JA's basic's DVD, wanna lend? Gee wizz, they use the check cord, in drills I had forgotten. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashka Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I Obedience train my boys to walk at heel. The latest one is now 5 years old, he will not lift his leg on anything if he's wearing his Obedience check chain unless I walk him to a lamp post or tree and use our toilet command 'Hurry up' Used mainly for town walks through cafe seating and the normal crowded footpath items. Also for visiting non dog people friends. Slip his check chain on and he's at heel, no messing around. Ordinary fun walks are on a collar and extender lead and he can please himself as long as there is still an instant recall to my side when necessary. Keep it simple & consistent and most of all don't forget the praise. He's an entire Champion Stud dog. (Cavalier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanaussi Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Thanks for all your advice! I will try and do my best to train him properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamSnag Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 My dog is 14months old and not desexd, he has never lifed his leg yet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaywoman68 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Orson squats when hes inside the house and going on newspaper. When hes outside for the loo, sometimes he will squat and sometimes he will lift his leg (territorial thing). Its funny watching his lift his leg cos he will do a half cock I never realised you could teach a dog to not lift his leg......:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) Havent read the thread but i wish i knew!!!! I have a pee-aholic He does it when he is excited, stressed, sometimes just cause and i have to give him a wee break before we do any 'work' Its not going to change now as he is 5, i will say that desexing done nothing but i never expected it too as it was ingrained into him already. Edited December 23, 2007 by tollersowned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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