RL1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Were there any dogs during the course that tested either trainer ? Do trainers ever get frustrated with a dog ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Erny, Victoria Stillwell has the dominatrix look too! Yeah you do need to upgrade the car though! hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) An RSPCA rep turned up? What was that about? Someone reported that we'd be discussing training equipment, including the PPCollar. The RSPCA just wanted to know the Victorian Law was being observed (which it was) and that we'd explained what those laws were (which we had). The RSPCA guy was a nice guy. Reasonable and recognised we'd done and were doing nothing wrong. He and I had a nice chat. :rolleyes: And he was impressed with the behaviour of all the dogs who were there . All was good. In fact, I would have enjoyed talking to him for longer :D. Erny wonders if he's married ..... Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Erny, Victoria Stillwell has the dominatrix look too! Oh geeeee ..... I thought she was trying to pull the sexy look. I really didn't care ..... I was just hoping the TV Stations would catch on to 'local' talent :D. Yeah you do need to upgrade the car though! hehe That will come with my TV contract. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) Were there any dogs during the course that tested either trainer ? Do trainers ever get frustrated with a dog ? IMO, "No" to each of the above, RL01. With one that I worked with, results were inhibited due to the 'nature' of the dog at the time (eg. lack of confidence). I had a separate word in that instance so that the owner could work that up, which would enhance the other behaviour modification exercise demonstrated. Good trainers know that frustration will not help, only harm. And understanding the dog at a deeper level ..... usually I don't get frustrated with the dog. If there is any frustration, it would be with myself and not while I am working with the dog. But I don't tend to feel frustrated. If something isn't working I just need to think it out and alter something or change tack completely. Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nillasdad Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Someone reported that we'd be discussing training equipment... Now why doesn't that surprise me... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Were there any dogs during the course that tested either trainer ? Do trainers ever get frustrated with a dog ? IMO, "No" to each of the above, RL01. With one that I worked with, results were inhibited due to the 'nature' of the dog at the time (eg. lack of confidence). I had a separate word in that instance so that the owner could work that up, which would enhance the other behaviour modification exercise demonstrated. Good trainers know that frustration will not help, only harm. And understanding the dog at a deeper level ..... usually I don't get frustrated with the dog. If there is any frustration, it would be with myself and not while I am working with the dog. But I don't tend to feel frustrated. If something isn't working I just need to think it out and alter something or change tack completely. Ok, so you would say you as a trainer need patience, or is it more so the owner needs patience and persistence ? It will be interesting to see what happens when i visit K9 Force. I think my dog will try and "test" out Steve the trainer. Others in the past didn't persist. Maybe it's not entirely the dogs fault, nobody has really ever shown me how to handle a dog like mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Someone reported that we'd be discussing training equipment... Now why doesn't that surprise me... :rolleyes: That's Ridiculous.If they didn't want to hear the content being discussed why attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpley Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 RL01 - I learnt alot about MYSELF as a dog owner and now recognise how important being a good 'alpha' is to my dogs. Steve, I believe, can work wonders with all dogs, but you will find that you will be the one that will end up doing the most amount of changing and learning. Erny - I don't think you will see the RSPCA guy again to get the chance to work out if he is married, he looked pretty eager to get out that door after you 'spoke' to him. :rolleyes: Maybe you did need that whip, he may have hung around for that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) Ok, so you would say you as a trainer need patience, or is it more so the owner needs patience and persistence ? IMO I think a person (whether that be trainer or owner-trainer) ONLY feels frustrated when they don't fully understand the dog - why it's doing what it does; what it's thinking; what it's feeling. Understanding this isn't always an easy thing, and that's where having someone who might be able to shed a bit of light on that, can help. And when that's understood, generally speaking the "behaviour modification exercise/s" can be more easily applied. I think my dog will try and "test" out Steve the trainer. I don't think it's a matter of your dog trying to "test out Steve the trainer". I think it will be simply a matter of your dog applying behaviour that he (the dog) knows and figures 'works'. I do know that Steve will give an assessment and beyond that, work with your dog in such a way as for him (the dog) to learn that "testing out" doesn't achieve any goals. No frustration in that. RL01 .... it isn't about 'beating' the dog (I don't mean in the physical "hitting" sense). It's about teaching him how to make better (read : more acceptable) choices for behaviour. You'll know more once you've seen Steve. Try not to be frustrated in the meantime and keep your dog safe :rolleyes:. When is your appointment? Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) That's Ridiculous.If they didn't want to hear the content being discussed why attend. Perhaps they didn't attend. Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 You'll know more once you've seen Steve. Try not to be frustrated in the meantime and keep your dog safe :rolleyes:. When is your appointment? I'm working that out now, i have a couple of available date's given to me as i requested. I'm trying to arrange for my brother to share the driving but both date's clash with his interstate and overseas business. I'll get down there some how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tollers Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Were there any dogs during the course that tested either trainer ? Do trainers ever get frustrated with a dog ? IMO, "No" to each of the above, RL01. With one that I worked with, results were inhibited due to the 'nature' of the dog at the time (eg. lack of confidence). I had a separate word in that instance so that the owner could work that up, which would enhance the other behaviour modification exercise demonstrated. Good trainers know that frustration will not help, only harm. And understanding the dog at a deeper level ..... usually I don't get frustrated with the dog. If there is any frustration, it would be with myself and not while I am working with the dog. But I don't tend to feel frustrated. If something isn't working I just need to think it out and alter something or change tack completely. Ok, so you would say you as a trainer need patience, or is it more so the owner needs patience and persistence ? It will be interesting to see what happens when i visit K9 Force. I think my dog will try and "test" out Steve the trainer. Others in the past didn't persist. Maybe it's not entirely the dogs fault, nobody has really ever shown me how to handle a dog like mine. RottyLover01 - I don't know your dogs history but I'm can't imagine Steve being frustrated with your dog. He'd probably love the challenge of a difficult dog and being able to sort out what's going on in the dogs mind, pass that info onto you and then work together to help you both. I'm 100% sure Steve will persist as long as you do. I hope it all goes well for you and you get the help you're looking for. :D I didn't know anything about the RSPCA guy until you'd said he'd been and gone Erny. Maybe you should have introduced him to all of us. :rolleyes: That's Ridiculous.If they didn't want to hear the content being discussed why attend. He heard that Erny was there and came to check her out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpley Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Love the new name 'Margo' I was saying to Shoemonster, who is Margo? I was extremely confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tollers Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Aaawww thank you. I was pretty confused for a while too. Someone's just told me that I'm stuck with it for the next 12 months. :rolleyes: I might have to suck up to Troy I think. BTW Thanks for the photos of Todd, Steve. And thanks to both Erny and Steve for your photo's of all of the dogs. Do you have any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 H: An RSPCA rep turned up? What was that about? K9: He wanted my autograph.... lol RL: It will be interesting to see what happens when i visit K9 Force. I think my dog will try and "test" out Steve the trainer. K9: they all try, God loves a tryer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petmezz Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 awsom weekend. you all think your tiered!! why not throw in some K9 freestyle lessions, transporting your dog on a train (Zen never has even seen a train till monday) and have a lonly guy talk to you all night (when all you whant to do is eat and go to bead). my weekend is over YAY, now of to work tomorrow got to love life. wagalot, i'll be down in a few weeks to steal your dingo, still smiling about the shoes and his antics :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 Aaawww thank you. I was pretty confused for a while too. Someone's just told me that I'm stuck with it for the next 12 months. I might have to suck up to Troy I think. Serves yourself right for being cheeky about my faux pas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) And thanks to both Erny and Steve for your photo's of all of the dogs. Do you have any more? Like this one .... "I smell a Pig's Ear ..... " This is a nice photo. I lightened it in photobucket but it didn't come out the same way when I uploaded to here. ETA : Actually - it looks better on this computer than it does on my other. double Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) And this one ... "Yummmmmm .......... pigs ear ..... yumm" Those canines are seriously big !!! Edited May 20, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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