Kavik Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Can dogs get toxoplasmosis from raw meat? If so, how serious is it likely to be? A friend has had a dog diagnosed with this and the vet said it was from raw meat and is trying to convince her to feed dry only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappie Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It's possible and can be quite serious, however clinical infections in dogs are uncommon. I have been unlucky enough to see one case of sudden onset blindness caused by toxoplasmosis, we suspect that the dog became infected after constant snacking on "aged" cat poo. How bad really depends on which body system is affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsforall Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Can dogs get toxoplasmosis from raw meat? If so, how serious is it likely to be? A friend has had a dog diagnosed with this and the vet said it was from raw meat and is trying to convince her to feed dry only. freeze the meat before using it will kill those types of viruses sarcocystisis and neospora (hope they are spelt right)come from sheep and cattle and are very similar to toxo and my vet said to freeze or cook meat before using it to kill the viruses dfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavandra Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Yes I freeze all my meats & bones first also, I never feed fresh just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallomph Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I've been told : It's certainly possible to get it from raw meat. But a much more direct way to get it is from cat feces. Cats can carry this parasite without showing symptoms. NB. Humans can also catch it, pregnant women should avoid contact with cat feces (eg. emptying litter trays, gardening- wear gloves) because toxoplasmosis can cause spontaneous abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 ...............NB. Humans can also catch it, pregnant women should avoid contact with cat feces (eg. emptying litter trays, gardening- wear gloves) because toxoplasmosis can cause spontaneous abortion. I'd never heard of it in dogs, before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I've been told : It's certainly possible to get it from raw meat. But a much more direct way to get it is from cat feces. Cats can carry this parasite without showing symptoms. Geez! Mine all love kitty crunchers . . . and roo pooh and other bush treats. What are the symptoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsforall Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i had a preg bitch that started to get sick into vet high temp bit gunky in the rear thought she had pyometra de-sexed vet wasn't sure when he took her uterus out it was pyometra so sent it away for testing she actually had toxo not pyometra it is like a virus so symptoms could include temp vomiting off food lethargic runny poo etc. but can be lethal to young old and immuno compromised dfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Apparently this disease can also be spread by rats & mice although I think here in Australia the deaded leptospirosis is more commonly vectored by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle Mum Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 What sort of meat & raw bones do you feed your dogs!! Most dogs are feed human quality beef or chicken bones? 20 years as a vet nurse have never heard of a dog with toxo!! Much more luckily to come in contact with toxo from vegies from market gardens or cat poo that has been hanging around in litter trays from a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) OK she says that the dogs are fed raw meat (chicken, lamb and beef) from the local abatoir as there are quite a few of them. Everyone in the local area buys from this place and there are no other animals (dogs or cats) at the vet with symptoms even remotely similar. Only 2 adult dogs have been affected and two babies. There is no access to cats. The vet is still waiting for blood tests to confirm toxo but is pretty sure this is the problem. EFS Edited December 10, 2007 by Kavik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsforall Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 sacro neospora and toxo are all basically the same they all could come from meat neospora is from cattle that has feed near sewage sarco is from sheep toxo from cats and feral animals they only way to tell the dif sometimes between the three is a brain autopsy all three act the same and are grouped together we fed human grade meat to the bitch i was talking about which i also ate myself and she and i both ended up up sick so any meat that comes into this household must be frozen first and no medium rare anymore for me we went through everything it could have been and last thing we thought of was the meat but i still had some in the freezer(ate half fresh froze the rest) sent what i had left to be tested and it was the cause my partner ate it but wasn't sick he likes his well done but it also comes down to how strong you immune system is as well from what the vet and doctor said most people come into contact with these things and the body just makes antibodies and they don't even know they had it but young elderly and immuno compromised are most at risk dfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havahug Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Many years ago I lost a puppy to TOXO. He had been home with my family from a registered breeder 3 days when he become sick, the vet told me it was caused from eating cat do do's but we didnt have a cat. We fought it with him for 3 weeks but in the end it was too much for the little guy and he passed away at 10 weeks of age. At our previous house we had a cat but we had to get rid of it as I had got TOXO from cleaning out the litter tray and I had 3 miscarrages before the found that it was TOXO ;) Very horrible way to go for a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony mazzeri Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 My Weimaraner contracted toxoplasmosis when he was about 7 years old. The vet had no clue what it was, so sent me to the neuro specialist who had no clue either and thought it might be a brain tumour. After an extremely frightening and harrowing week a simple blood test diagnosed toxo, and antibiotics fixed it immediately. I take the whole episode as a signal it's not common enough amongst dogs for vets or even specialists to recognise the symptoms when they see them. The only raw food he ate was marrow bones from the butcher shop. My guess as to the source was most likely feral cat droppings as stray cats had visited our yard and likely used it as a restroom on their wandering journeys. A single infected tom cat can travel a great distance and through many yards. It may explain two different dogs getting it if they are within a few kilometres of each other. PS. Toxoplasmosis is just Latin for 'blood poisoning'. It's a bacterial infection. Single cell parasites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Monster Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 We are trying for a family and my doctor told me that I should stay away from Dog poo while I'm pregnant that it's not just cat poo that you can get it from? One of my breeders pets had neospora so she told me about freezing the meat first - apparently if a bitch gets neospora she can't be mated as it can be passed down to the pups - males don't pass it on though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony mazzeri Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm not sure if dogs can act as carriers. I can tell you from my own experience, you will know full well when a dog has toxoplasmosis. They get extremely sick straight away and it gets worse as the days pass. I believe a cat on the other hand can carry it and pass it on without showing any symptoms, so there is always a continual risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharn Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm pretty sure cats are the only primary host for the Toxoplasma gondii parasite. Other mammals may become infected and show no signs, including humans. Mammals that are immuno compromised are at the highest risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloebear Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I will start to freeze all meat before i eat it or feed it to puppy. Don't butchers have to test for bugs and things in meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldust Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) I heard that if a bitch puppy catches it it can make her infertile?? Edited December 15, 2007 by Bulldust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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