Is There An Aus Company That Makes Bite Developers, Sleeves, And Scent

[Nekhbet]

shpeshal

this is like a train wreck ... I cant look away. Its so entertaining. Problem is poke a bees nest long enough itll jab you in the bottom like a chip toothed malinois :cool:

[ducky]

Well I had outsiders look at it from outside the debate that weren't involved and sometimes you have to admit that if everyone thinks that way then I am probably wrong.

Guess I just bristled up and didn't want to listen when it started getting pers against me especially about mistreating the dog and having no idea on anything. Will stop for the next 6 months and if I'm still interested in doing it that $20 aweek saved will go to a pro.

Can't keep the ear muffs on forever.

Now here is a serious question I'm not looking for another 100 post slanging match, what other training fields can I go in I am only interested in practical things please forget about the breed of the dog.

I would love to do

Scent training using pseudo scents (narcotics), doing now to a basic level

Tracking (Basic only trained in so far too many bindies at the park and too many snakes on the bush tracks near my house so rested the last month)

Suspect Discrimination through scent (german book I'm reading now, no clue on it)

Lurching

And is there anything else practical, not interested in anything gundog related as I handed my rifles in years ago and can see no use of him bringing back a plastic bird for applause. Not interested in any type of sports like dog dancing, or chasing a plastic bag.

Now if I'm walking into another trainwreck by being interested in one of these let me know early cause I didn't know bite training my dog questions would cause such an uproar and finger pointing.

Am I still nieve?

[sidoney]

Scent training yes, tracking yes, what about search and rescue?

[mitcha_22]

Im sorry but this thread has really disturbed me and I'm assuming it has disturbed many others!

why cant you see that people are just trying to help you here

you have no idea what your doing your dog will end up hurting you

or someone else! you need to stop been a tight ass and go get professional help.

this is why there are problems with BSL untrained people making there dogs

vicious. I own an Amstaff so im trying to bring my dog up without anger

issues because I'm a responsible owner if you were you would get help.

:cool:

[ducky]

Scent training yes, tracking yes, what about search and rescue?

Did heaps of research on that months ago and basically no chance in NSW there is no clubs to join specialising in that, there is one in Vic and she was great on advice but there was just no pro's I could find on that as I did read a book on that subject and thought I've got no chance without training in a club and there are no clubs to join specialising in non sport search and rescue and you can't help in proper searches due to some cowboys a few years ago.

[Sardog]

Ducky, for one reason or an other I was thinking you had an English Pointer.

GSP, now that's a different ball game.

Fiona, you suggested sar.

I was thinking more along the lines of tracking.

Shorthairs love to "range/quarter" quite a distance and they are very headstrong and trying to do sar work with one is quite a challenge, believe me, I know.

Working a GSP within a confined area with total control they are a very good dog. BUT, having said that, Ducky with your attitude, I'm not sure that you would maybe take the advice of anyone trying to help you as displayed in all these posts, except of course K9 - which I might add, his post was initiated by me through an email to him as I thought that if you would take anyone's advice, it may be K9's - and I was correct - thanks K9 and thank god for the dog's sake!

You mentioned that you had bought the pup for showing, I would then make the assumption that your GSP is not from working lines. This again is another issue.

My advice (for what it's worth) is tracking. Find yourself a tracking group and you can have all the fun and enjoyment doing what they love to do, use their nose.

GUNDOGS ARE FUNDOGS

Edited November 27, 2007 by Sardog

[Bulldust]

Geez the last thing the dog world needs is Pointers getting a bad name because they are badly trained and start hanging off peoples arms

I can think of better party tricks to train a dog to amuse my blockhead mates than a dog hanging off my arm "Gee that looks like great fun, can he hang off my arm next? please? it looks like so much fun!!"

Watch out Indians if this boy gets a taste for towels he'll bite your head off

Do everything else youve suggested youre interested in i reckon itd be a hell of alot more fun. Though your posts have amused me to no end, sh!t you are funny :cool:

Otherwise please come back and tell us how your Pointer goes in his training, and if we dont hear from ya, its prob because he bit BOTH your arms off

[ducky]

Geez the last thing the dog world needs is Pointers getting a bad name because they are badly trained and start hanging off peoples arms

I can think of better party tricks to train a dog to amuse my blockhead mates than a dog hanging off my arm "Gee that looks like great fun, can he hang off my arm next? please? it looks like so much fun!!"

Watch out Indians if this boy gets a taste for towels he'll bite your head off

Do everything else youve suggested youre interested in i reckon itd be a hell of alot more fun. Though your posts have amused me to no end, sh!t you are funny

Otherwise please come back and tell us how your Pointer goes in his training, and if we dont hear from ya, its prob because he bit BOTH your arms off ;)

:cool: :cool:

[Kavik]

There is a tracking club in NSW - give that a go! I've done a very little bit - lots of fun.

NDTF do a scent detection course if you are interested in that. Done that too - that was fun!

What about agility? GSPs enjoy that too.

Do you have any pics? I like GSPs :cool:

[ducky]

There is a tracking club in NSW - give that a go! I've done a very little bit - lots of fun.

NDTF do a scent detection course if you are interested in that. Done that too - that was fun!

What about agility? GSPs enjoy that too.

Do you have any pics? I like GSPs :cool:

It's english, just tried to get a bit more respect for my dog by saying it's german. Where can I do the scent detection at can you just go without your dog to learn the theory or is it your dog is to sniff this until you move onto the next bit?

[Kavik]

The course is both theory and prac, you need prior experience to do it though, I did their trainer course first. You can take your dog. There are guest speakers including Steve Austin.

http://www.ndtf.net.au/new/index.html

[MonElite]

Have a look through my posts and please copy and post where I said I wanted to join a schutzhund club if you try doctoring it may trick a couple of readers.

Nowhere. You are so smart but you failed to spot a bit of advice there......... if you would take the dog to the club there are people there that do the bite training and are knowledgeable in the area. But hey, what woudl your mates think if you went out to the club and got an opinion. For Free.........

So no club, no professional, jsut book and itnernet sites.

I wish you luck. Id love to see some video footage of your progress.

Myshka

:cool: you can at least pronounce it right, well done

This

It's english, just tried to get a bit more respect for my dog by saying it's german

and the comment of what you mates will think of you for doing flyball.

Oh boy, Im trying to figure out if these are jokes in your whicked sence of humor or do you actually mean it :cool:

[MonElite]

I have just read your post in the general section - well done for starting to reconsider.

There are soooo many sports you can do with your dog!

I want to do the bite work, the tracking, the obedience, the agility and I also show. I wish I had time to do all of them!

Explore and you will find something suitable for you and your dog. Keep us posted, tho, thats a must on DOL.

[sidoney]

Thanks for your input, sardog ... I was hoping you'd comment. :cool:

If I was you ducky, I'd be working with my dog's strengths, not trying to get it to do something it's not suited for. Much more satisfying for you and the dog.

Anything you do, it will be for fun ... you won't be doing any professional dogwork with your dog. So you may as well make it as fun as possible.

Edited November 27, 2007 by sidoney

[Erny]

Ducky -

Well done on your re-think and having the courage to inform us of it. I think you mentioned you're not into the retrieving side of things (although that can be more challenging than you think - ask Lablover about that, she knows all about it and with lots of hard work does very well with her dogs) so I would be thinking along the lines of tracking (although I still think retrieving would be far more interesting, but that's just me).

Good luck with it all. And I applaud you for looking to engage in a sport that your dog will find mentally stimulating and well-suited to his genetics.

Edited November 27, 2007 by Erny

[Griffo]

Ducky you have shocked me, i am very happy you have decided to listen to reason, and actually admit to it. There are not many people who'd be so brave, so good on you.

Good luck with your boy and hopefully we'll be hearing more about him around the forum in the future!!

[Sardog]

Ducky: It's english, just tried to get a bit more respect for my dog by saying it's german.

Sardog: Another different story, no wonder you are not getting any credibility here

Comparing the two does not have any more or less respect, I think it's you who has lost it not your English Pointer.

Nothing wrong with an EP if you know what you are doing!

[Lablover]

English Pointer for a retrieving trial dog????? Could be fun??? My brother in law had an English Pointer who was trained, just like a labrador LOL (was not trained to quarter etc), who did adequately as a pick up dog while duck hunting. Felt the cold terribly mind you and not much of a swimmer. Lovely pet, who suffered from - (controlled) epilepsy, later in life.

A gundog is a fun dog - yes, but labradors rule!!!!

I think it is great that you seem to be searching for a sport/interest with your dog. As others have mentioned, attend a few events.

[ducky]

Thanks for the support and thanks for the advice and some info, started to see the other side when I read K9 force post when he wrote like a pro, not going to rule it out just going to wait 6 months to see what temperement he matures too then if I think he's ready I'll go see if K9 force thinks the same and abide by the decision till then I'm still not going to tell my pup he's a pointer and see what other fields I can train in for my and my dogs enjoyment, so keep an eye out at the local greyhound track he may be racing.

You can't take all what I wrote in there serious I was playing up a little at being a Bogan, as if I'm going to get pissed with me mates at me barbie and dare them to put on the sleeve

[Griffo]

Thanks for the support and thanks for the advice and some info, started to see the other side when I read K9 force post when he wrote like a pro, not going to rule it out just going to wait 6 months to see what temperement he matures too then if I think he's ready I'll go see if K9 force thinks the same and abide by the decision till then I'm still not going to tell my pup he's a pointer and see what other fields I can train in for my and my dogs enjoyment, so keep an eye out at the local greyhound track he may be racing.

You can't take all what I wrote in there serious I was playing up a little at being a Bogan, as if I'm going to get pissed with me mates at me barbie and dare them to put on the sleeve :rolleyes:

He wrote like a pro because he is a pro. As we said, it is a specialist area.