WinGus Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I bought a bag of chicken frames from Leonards and my little mini-foxie loved them. I then bought some more chicken frames from another chicken shop and she doesn't like them?!?! Does she know something I don't?!?!?! I thought the frames looked fine and fresh to me, they were just a lot bigger than the frames I bought from Leonards. I thought it might just be those frames, so I went and got some more frames from Leonards, and lo and behold, she still won't eat them?!?!?!? I'm not sure why this is the case. Thought she might be off chicken for a while, but then she will still eat wings and necks?!?!? I now have a freezer full of chicken frames - that's way too much stock for me!!! Any suggestions?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MolassesLass Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Is she teething atm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 bigger isn't better. I feed frames to dogs in a boarding kennel. The larger the frames and the smaller the dog's jaw, the more work I have to do with the meat clever before the dog will eat them. Also, some dogs are fat sensitive. If there are globs of fat on the frames, try doing a bit of trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinGus Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 Molasseslass, no, she's not teething at the moment. She's got all her adult teeth now at nearly 7mo. Sandgrubber, I do chop up the chicken frames into smaller pieces as there is no way that she could eat a whole one!! I cut them up into about eight pieces and she gets one piece. I do also try and trim most of the fat off as I know she doesn't like the fat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 One of our dogs died last weekend from her chicken frame, after i just ordered 10kg of them. Now i'm too scared to give them to my other dogs and also have a freezer full of chicken frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Stormie, how the did the chicken frame cause the death of the dog? Sorry to hear about his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinGus Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 Oh Stormie, sorry to hear about your poor dog. I always supervise Pepper when she's eating her frames, and I know that sometimes she gets excited and tries to swallow a large lump. Thankfully she has never choked, but there will always be that risk. Maybe if you cut them up into smaller pieces or feed together with something else? Sometimes for her evening meal, I cut up chicken necks into small peices and mix them in with her meats. She has never choked on these and knows to crunch up the bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Molasseslass, no, she's not teething at the moment. She's got all her adult teeth now at nearly 7mo.Sandgrubber, I do chop up the chicken frames into smaller pieces as there is no way that she could eat a whole one!! I cut them up into about eight pieces and she gets one piece. I do also try and trim most of the fat off as I know she doesn't like the fat! You might try beating them to something of a mash. When I feed small dogs I probably chop each frame into at least 50 bits. I try to act like the chef on the cooking show attacking a carrot or cucumber. The frames often don't cut clean through and hang together because some of the meat is intact, but the bones are well chopped. I think this reduces danger of swallowing anything too big as well as allowing little jaws to chew them. The bigger the chook, the harder it is for the dog to chomp through the bones. You can cut chooks with poultry snips, but it tires the hands. I find a heavy meat cleaver the best tool (though smashing them with a tommyhawk also works). It is very hard on cutting boards. Best to find an old stump. I've probably fed a couple hundred small dogs this way in the boarding kennel. Some dogs won't eat anything raw, but most of them love it. I've never had one get sick or choke. Edited October 29, 2007 by sandgrubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Stormie, how the did the chicken frame cause the death of the dog?Sorry to hear about his death. Thankyou... I found her in the morning after having one for dinner. She couldn't get up and had vomited all around the yard. We x-rayed her and could see tonnes of bones stuck, which we thought was odd as she always takes the longest to chew down hers usually. We could see a whole wish bone in there! She often has chicken frames etc with no problems, but this one wasnt meant to be, i guess. She aspirated some vomit in the night - she was 14 and quite senile - so for whatever reason, didn't get up to be sick. We put her on fluids and went to operate, but her lungs were just too damaged and she couldnt maintain a high enough oxygen saturation in her blood to sustain herself. We put her to sleep as she would have just suffocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I'm so sorry stormie. How very sad for you and the lovely old girl to go through that. I'll be watching my dogs very carefully whilst they eat their chicken frames in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Thanks again, Cav. The strange thing is, we do watch them! It's the other goldie we used to worry about more too as she's a real hoover! This one always lay down to eat cause she was so slow and liked to crunch everything slowly. She did suffer vestibular syndrome about 8 months ago, which we're starting to think may have had a slight impact on her swallowing, but I guess we'll never know. Had she not have aspirated, she most probably would have been fine after surgery, but because she was old and had dimentia, we're not sure she knew what was really going on at the time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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