Potty Training

[erin993]

Ok, so I am having SO SO SO much trouble with our young jack russell pup. The worst part is, I worked as a vet nurse and have always had jacks and never had a problem, this is something I normally give people advice on and I have NEVER had so much trouble trying to house train a dog. Puppy has gotton progressivly worse and worse, he gets taken outside every 1/2 hour, and normally goes, gets more praise than a winning football team and then gets to come back inside. Inside, he has had newspaper, puppy pads, sprays, drops, you name it! Again, the times he has been sucsessful in using one of these (very rare) he got more praise than I could care to mention.... BUT no matter what, he just keeps peeing EVERYWHERE else! And he does it so dam quick, its like he waits for the 2 second time frame when i take my eyes away from him to do it.... This morning he peed on a cushion in the bedroom he noramlly sleeps on - a first and tonight even on the couch.... 3 weeks on and it gets worse and worse... I don't know what is wrong, wether he is just so so confused, or scared, resentful - what???

ARGH!

[Kelpie-i]

erin993, how old is your pup??

I can't help but think that this is not a housetraining issue, but rather a leadership issue. Do you have other dogs apart from him?

But before we go down the track of behaviour problems and provided you are implementing the housetraining regime correctly, have a look at what you are feeding him as many brands of dog food, yes even the super premiums, have extremely high levels of sodium which makes the dog drink more and the results are....more peeing.

If this is the case, try feeding a more natural based diet which should eliminate the need to drink large quantities of water.

[erin993]

erin993, how old is your pup??

I can't help but think that this is not a housetraining issue, but rather a leadership issue. Do you have other dogs apart from him?

But before we go down the track of behaviour problems and provided you are implementing the housetraining regime correctly, have a look at what you are feeding him as many brands of dog food, yes even the super premiums, have extremely high levels of sodium which makes the dog drink more and the results are....more peeing.

If this is the case, try feeding a more natural based diet which should eliminate the need to drink large quantities of water.

On nutrience jnr untill i can get my hands on some eagle pack.... no other dogs - want to get a kitten shortly - we just got a new house... had puppy about 3 weeks and he is just coming up 12 weeks - i dont expect him to be perfect, but he is getting worse - not better.... I am prob expecting more than i should at his age but i'm getting nothing... It just doesnt seem to matter how didlgent i am, the second i trun my back he pees - and he's doing it in worse and worse places as time goes on......

[erin993]

Kelpie - I can't help but to think I know you.... I have even gone to the extent of purchasing puppy pads and dropper bottle stuff (ruddicks brand and all) in the desperation of it helping.... We are off to our first day of puppy school on Sat at Keilor - do you instruct there too? Or just the better looking half?

[Flaves]

Can you crate train him?

Make sure he does not have an infection first and then take it from there.

I don;t use the pads or the newspaper i use my crate.

I take Daire out every 30 minutes nad he does not come back in until he has wee'd. If after 10 mins he has not done what he need she can come in but goes into the crate fr 15 minutes and then out to wee again.

It is working, he has only had an accident if we have not been watching him closely enough.

Good luck.

I foind with my jrt she took a little longer cause she has a smaller bladder but crate training helped heaps.

When your pup has had his/her 2nd needle you should come to Kepala park we meet up monthly.

Edited October 16, 2007 by Kristie

[erin993]

Can you crate train him?

Make sure he does not have an infection first and then take it from there.

I don;t use the pads or the newspaper i use my crate.

I take Daire out every 30 minutes nad he does not come back in until he has wee'd. If after 10 mins he has not done what he need she can come in but goes into the crate fr 15 minutes and then out to wee again.

It is working, he has only had an accident if we have not been watching him closely enough.

Good luck.

I foind with my jrt she took a little longer cause she has a smaller bladder but crate training helped heaps.

No infection - smell, colour and consistency all normal! I have never had to use pads or paper in past either, and all of my dogs have been jacks - but girls... Perhaps I am just expecting too much - but he is sooo responsive and quick to learn with everything else. I am going mad!

[Flaves]

Boys can take longer. But i cannot remember if that is in humans or dogs! lol

[percyk]

i havent crated a dog

i have a big pen

but mostly i just tether them to me when im housetraining or to hooks i have screwed into the skirting boards

they are not allowed to roam

and i simply wait and wait and wait and wait til they have peed in the garden

i dont go in until they have and i actually watch and check that they have..not just open the door and let pups go and assume they have toileted themselves

try putting a soiled pad in the garden and keep putting him on it

tethering really has been the answer for me

my pups never walk around the house or even a room

at the mo one is under the desk here having peed in the yard and as long as hes sleeping im fine

once he gets up im taking him out

i dont expect little dogs to be trained til a year or so ..completely as i would a larger dog

[erin993]

Boys can take longer. But i cannot remember if that is in humans or dogs! lol

HA HA! Well, if the boyfriend is anything to go by (he seems to think it's my job to pick up where his mother left off) mutt will be at least 10 or 12 years before he even considers doing anything that I ask of him!

[Flaves]

lo i can relate to that one!

Only took me 10 years to train him.

[Cazz]

You can't imaging how much praise Mishka got when he pooped in the garden this morning.

He came in the house tonight (after realising that whining at the door won't bring the magic door opener) was in for hardly 2 minutes and he pooped behind my left wheels(I was scrambling my eggs for dinner), whined quietly, and dashed under my dining table to finish his pooping.

When I finally cleaned the doo, I turned the chair around and discovered a puddle under my bench.

I don't think it'd be fair to tether him to my waist. Other suggestions?

[erin993]

You can't imaging how much praise Mishka got when he pooped in the garden this morning.

He came in the house tonight (after realising that whining at the door won't bring the magic door opener) was in for hardly 2 minutes and he pooped behind my left wheels(I was scrambling my eggs for dinner), whined quietly, and dashed under my dining table to finish his pooping.

When I finally cleaned the doo, I turned the chair around and discovered a puddle under my bench.

I don't think it'd be fair to tether him to my waist. Other suggestions?

it seems extreme to me too - not liking attempting to cook with a puppy tethered under my feet.. Am looking forward to puppy skool on sat to ask a million questions...

[Her Majesty Dogmad]

Is he desexed yet?

I've never had trouble training a foxy or jack type - super smart and boys always willing to oblige which makes this method much easier! I've been successful with over 40 dogs in 4 years with this method. If this doesn't work I'd worry that there is a medical problem.

Try this:

HOUSETRAINING TIPS

Ok - first thing to do is decide on the command (I call it “do wees”) you will repeat over and over. You have to really focus on the dog for about 2-3 days to be successful. You have a pocketful of special treats on hand all the time for the first 2-3 days.

Walk the dog several times a day and every time the dog wees, you get very excited and keep saying “Good boy/girl, do wees, do wees” – give the dog treats every time.

First thing in the morning, last thing at night and every time you see the dog eat or drink (both precursors to weeing) whisk the dog into the garden and repeat the command “do wees”. Get very excited and present treats every time dog goes.

The dog’s aim in life is to please you. If the dog should have an accident inside the house – say NOTHING at all. The dog soon gets the idea that when he/she goes outside you are really, really pleased and he/she gets rewarded.

NB: Please note that the smell of urine must be properly removed for any housetraining to be successful. There are products on the market such as “Urine Off” but they are very expensive. A mix of white vinegar and water is a much cheaper alternative and should work for tiles and other surfaces although you should always take care with wood etc. For carpet/rugs, I use either a mixture of Napisan/water or bicarb of soda and water. I completely soak the stain using a dab on technique with a cloth. When it is very wet, I use an old towel to soak up the excess moisture. Again, be careful on any expensive carpet/rug, I have never had any problems but I cannot guarantee any method here.

Edited October 18, 2007 by dogmad

[cavNrott]

No infection - smell, colour and consistency all normal!

The absence of abnormal smell, colour and the urine being of normal consistency doesn't rule out a UTI. If he's going every 1/2 hour when you take him outside and then peeing all the time inside as well, it really doesn't sound as though all is well. Why not take a sample of his urine to the vet for urinalysis.

[BenjiMom]

Throw the paper and pads away, just take him outside..dont confuse him with the paper etc inside. I had to train our poodle..he's a male, all i did was take him outside...and wait and wait til he did something..either a poo or wee..then praise him. when he made a mistake inside..i just took him outside and said...wee. He soon learnt ..outside is for pees and poos.inside is for cuddles and food and cuddles.