Seeker Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I've been hearing that you should never take your dogs to RSPCA obedience lessons.Is this true?Since the RSPCA gives lessons close to my house i was planning to take our puppy there when we get one but now i'm not so sure. Have you had any bad experiences with the RSPCA?All opinions welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 because their trainers are idiots. They are so blinkered on their thinking and so biased towards breeds it is not funny. Everything is definatly black and white with them. If a dog is doing something obvious.. IT IS THIS or THAT.. not looking at the whole picture. They also operate on purely positive training. That is NO negative what so ever. It has been pretty much proven that PP training does not work for 99% of the population. Some of the principles of PP are common sense.. To stop a puppy chewing shoes, do not leave shoes out for puppy to chew. Once puppy has shoe.. distract it with something else and exchange for shoe. (one simple example of PP training) There are other training groups operating at Centenary (Jindalee), Durack, Oxley, Runcorn. Just thinking of suburbs around you. Another one to avoid is the group that trains at the Mt Gravatt Show grounds on a Tuesday night. THey are the opposite.. If a dog does not do something, yank its head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 thanks mystiqview. I will probably have a look for other clubs to join in. i think that people should be open minded and not stick with just one training method and shoot down all others. can you recommend any specific training/puppy preschool clubs that are good? Thnaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonymc Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Seeker,I would go with what Mystig said. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centitout Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 purely positive with no correction for bad behaviour has stuffed more dogs than anything else.training needs to be tailored to suit individual dogs and any trainer that doesnt do this shouldnt be training.i have just had to re train a pup of mine because of the only positive approach from the owners was making him a out of control dog who would have got worse.i try positive first,sometimes you do have to correct them,but it should never be harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 because their trainers are idiots. seems to me a lot of trainers out there don't really know what they're doing, the one's i've tried have been useless and myself and my dog gained nothing positive from the experience........I hope my appointment with "The Pawman" this weekend is a success....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Seeker, Here are a few that are around you (Presuming you live near RSPCA Grounds) CCCQ Affilliated Clubs Southside Dog Obedience Club: 0419026360 www.geocities.com/southside.dogs They train Monday Nights at Runcorn Obedience Dog Club of Brisbane: 0411 017 454 They train at Oxley Private Groups: Bonnies Dog Club: 3300 2959 www.bonnies.com.au/ They have a number of training centres around briasbane. Wagtails: You will need to look in white pages. They used to be at Sumner park Training in individual. IMO positive/negative works well. When people think of negative, they think yank on chain..not necessarily.. a small AH AH is negative as it is a correction, very light negative correction.. but correction none the less. Reward the good. Jackpot the excellent.. and correct (as necessary) the negative... But REWARD the positive. Seeker.. unfortunately the RSPCA (My partner used to work there, so know the blinkered thinking first hand) one is at one end of the scale and the other at Mt Gravatt Show grounds are at the opposite end of the scale.. One does not charge a great deal (I think)... You do not learn a lot. .the other charges heaps and destroys the temperament of dogs through excessively harsh methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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