carloslex Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 What club did you use? I have tried a few here in Brisbane and my own individual opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 K9: RL, Jane is very good. I know this may be a last ditch effort for you so I have not referred you on before this, thinking I would try & give you your best chance. My standard guarantee is "your not satisfied there is no charge". I know that doesnt add up to your travel costs but.. If you make the trip & are not satisfied, not only will there be no charge, I will pay your accomodation costs.... We are booking April now though... Thats the best I can do for you mate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloslex Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 THats a very generous offer Rottielover01, you should take him up on that, Even better, I know that the Pawman and Dogtec offer the same, if your not completely satisfied yor money is refunded, you should follow them up for a refund and put this money towards going to Sydney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 K9: Not all dogs are possible to rehab, but we have a very high success rate & I would be happy to give this one my best shot. Its only very rare occasions in which we cant help at all & recommend PTS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 What a great offer K9. Good on you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 What club did you use? I have tried a few here in Brisbane and my own individual opinion? Sorry, it was at club grounds, the trainers were TeamWork Dog Obedience. I don't have anything against Alex or Maureen, both very nice people, just didn't help my situation. K9: RL, Jane is very good.I know this may be a last ditch effort for you so I have not referred you on before this, thinking I would try & give you your best chance. My standard guarantee is "your not satisfied there is no charge". I know that doesnt add up to your travel costs but.. If you make the trip & are not satisfied, not only will there be no charge, I will pay your accomodation costs.... We are booking April now though... Thats the best I can do for you mate.. That's a very generous offer, though i don't think i could accept it. Even if no progress was achieved, it's still my responsibility for all the cost's involved. Without getting into too much detail here, how many days do clients usually need to spend at your centre with similar problems my dog has ? K9: Not all dogs are possible to rehab, but we have a very high success rate & I would be happy to give this one my best shot. Its only very rare occasions in which we cant help at all & recommend PTS... I honestly believe he's not past the point of no return. I still haven't met a trainer who has given the both of us a fair go. I think there's two reason's. They think he's in the too hard basket or they simply don't have the experience to deal with it. One trainer did tell me he admired me for taking him on........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloslex Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 That would have to be DogTech, I know I am pushing their barrow, but I really think you should get back in touch with them, he claims he never walks away from a client, and happily refunds money if you are not happy with the service, did you do all three sessions with him? How many times did you see tha Pawman, and did he spend much time with you? he also has a fantastic reputation here in Brisbane according to training clubs I also have been to Team work, they are lovely people, but are an obedience club, they do not claim to be behaviourists. They also have a reputation second to none in Brisbane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 That would have to be DogTech, I know I am pushing their barrow, but I really think you should get back in touch with them, he claims he never walks away from a client, and happily refunds money if you are not happy with the service, did you do all three sessions with him?How many times did you see tha Pawman, and did he spend much time with you? he also has a fantastic reputation here in Brisbane according to training clubs I also have been to Team work, they are lovely people, but are an obedience club, they do not claim to be behaviourists. They also have a reputation second to none in Brisbane No offence carloslex, but RottyLover has well and truly exhausted all these options and if I was in his position - after seeing so many trainers and being told PTS - I would be feeling a bit fed up (so to speak) too! Even Bark Busters promises life time training for your dog but that doesn't mean they can and do successfully help everyone (nothing against DogTech but if RL didn't have any success with them the first time I doubt he will want to go back, JMHO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloslex Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 You are right, but I had tha same sort of issues with my Rottie, I commited to two sessions with Dogtech and he is now cured, (although I also did a third session for my own benefit to be sure) and I didn't have to go with the other recomendations from other paople of puting him to sleep. If I had also just done just the one session then the problem would not be resolved and he wouldn't be with us now, and dogtec are very clear about this when you first enquire, or at least they were with me. Likewise the Pawman has a brilliant reputation here and I am surprised that he has walked away from the problem, I saved my boy, so am i am very passionate about giving them the best chance using all channels available before resorting to putting the dog to sleep. I am just concerned from my experience that He may have not have given the training with these other people a full chance, from my personeal experience it just doesnt sound right and therefore they possibly shouldn't be publicly riduculed for failing. Team work are one of the best clubs aroung bar none, Pawman has a great reputatuion and Dogtech helped me when others couldn't, so I am surprised about his problems with these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 That would have to be DogTech, I know I am pushing their barrow, but I really think you should get back in touch with them, he claims he never walks away from a client, and happily refunds money if you are not happy with the service, did you do all three sessions with him?How many times did you see tha Pawman, and did he spend much time with you? he also has a fantastic reputation here in Brisbane according to training clubs I also have been to Team work, they are lovely people, but are an obedience club, they do not claim to be behaviourists. They also have a reputation second to none in Brisbane ( 1 ) DogTech has more than one trainer, how do you know we saw the same trainer ? No, i didn't do three sessions with DogTech ............... ( 2 ) I saw the Pawman once, for an assessment, lasted about 20 - 30 minute's, in his opinion my dog isn't suitable for domestic, therefore that was as far as the visit went. Yes, he has a fantastic reputation, that's why i contacted him. .( 3 ) Yes TeamWork are lovely people. I never said the were behaviourist's. Yes, they also have a good reputation, that's why myself and my dog travelled up to Caboolture every Sunday morning............. It's a little bit odd to me that you have seen all the same trainers as i've mentioned, yet before you questioned how one could try so many different trainers without success.......Again, this is not about money. This is about improving my dog and learning how to handle him. I'm not interested in asking trainers for a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 You are right, but I had tha same sort of issues with my Rottie, I commited to two sessions with Dogtech and he is now cured, (although I also did a third session for my own benefit to be sure) and I didn't have to go with the other recomendations from other paople of puting him to sleep. If I had also just done just the one session then the problem would not be resolved and he wouldn't be with us now, and dogtec are very clear about this when you first enquire, or at least they were with me. Likewise the Pawman has a brilliant reputation here and I am surprised that he has walked away from the problem, I saved my boy, so am i am very passionate about giving them the best chance using all channels available before resorting to putting the dog to sleep. I am just concerned from my experience that He may have not have given the training with these other people a full chance, from my personeal experience it just doesnt sound right and therefore they possibly shouldn't be publicly riduculed for failing. Team work are one of the best clubs aroung bar none, Pawman has a great reputatuion and Dogtech helped me when others couldn't, so I am surprised about his problems with these people. You need to get your facts right before coming on a public forum and stating i've "publicly riduculed" any trainer. I haven't bad mouthed these trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloslex Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Quote "I tried Dog Tech in the past but in my opinion that was a waste and i wanted to try group training, however the instructors wouldn't allow my boy to take part with the other dogs. " End of Quote. Sorry, but I took these as negative comments. Have you tried Metropolitan dog Obedience, they are also good, but not Behaviourists, Wagtails have a reputation as good behaviourists in Brisbane and also Val Bonney is highly talked about. Dr Cam Day is meant to be one of the best in Brisbane and is exceptional but out of my price range. Believe me, I did a lot of research before making my decision and spoke to a lot of people. Sydney I believe is your only other option I think now. Please save your boy and do all of us Rottie fans a favour by presenting to the public another great well behaved speciman of a brilliant breed, (it certainly sounds like you are trying). We are getting enough bad press becasue of a few irresponsible few that aren't doing the right thing by their Rottie, I lov people like us showing them up and proving that our dogs aren't what is portrayed in the press to sell papers. Again, my apologies if i offended you, it wasn't my intention, I just love rotties and get a bit passionate, I also own a small embroidery business and like to stick up for the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) Have you tried Metropolitan dog Obedience, they are also good, LOL. I train at Metro. I wouldn't recommend a club for a person with a dog that has behaviourial issues like RL's, JMO, a club may be a good idea for socialisation down the track (that's what I did) but not for the immediate problem. I don't know if you have read any of RL's other threads but all these recommendations and more have been made to him. I agree that Steve will probably be the best person to work with now if he has the chance (although as K9 said, Jane is also very good ). ETA: RL's comments didn't sound negative at all to me, just his account of what happened. As he said, Dogtech is a franchise and you cannot replicate the same experience as every trainer is different. Edited January 22, 2008 by huski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloslex Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) point taken. maybe I am just to sensitive when i read about Rotties, Hope Metropolitan is working out for you, I heard good things about them. Edited January 22, 2008 by carloslex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBella Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) K9: Not all dogs are possible to rehab, but we have a very high success rate & I would be happy to give this one my best shot. Its only very rare occasions in which we cant help at all & recommend PTS... I honestly believe he's not past the point of no return. I still haven't met a trainer who has given the both of us a fair go. I think there's two reason's. They think he's in the too hard basket or they simply don't have the experience to deal with it. One trainer did tell me he admired me for taking him on........ I have been watching this thread with great interest RottyLover01. I vote go and see K9 Force. If you send him an email he will tell you how long he needs but I'm fairly sure he does 2 hour sessions with a follow up sometime later so you should only need 2 nights accommodation. Also, Sydney is not 15 hours from here, it is only 10 and then another hour to K9 Force land. It's up in the mountains and is a very peacefull spot. BTW your boy is absolutely lovely. I love rotties I'm waiting for your success story to appear next Edited January 22, 2008 by BellasPerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 RL: That's a very generous offer, though i don't think i could accept it. Even if no progress was achieved, it's still my responsibility for all the cost's involved. K9: well its a gesture to show I am pretty confident I can help... Without getting into too much detail here, how many days do clients usually need to spend at your centre with similar problems my dog has ? K9: we do weekend packs for interstate people, you arrive near us Friday morning, we set you up 2 lessons on that Friday, you stay over night Friday & we do another lesson Saturday morning & you are free to go or stay another night. Most people do three lessons in two days & stay 2 nights... (depending on the problems of course).. We will give you enough info between these lessons, the programs I will write & email to you & further unlimited communication via email & phone to get you sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL1 Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 BTW your boy is absolutely lovely. I love rotties I'm waiting for your success story to appear next Yes that would be a nice way to end this thread wouldn't it. K9: well its a gesture to show I am pretty confident I can help...K9: we do weekend packs for interstate people, you arrive near us Friday morning, we set you up 2 lessons on that Friday, you stay over night Friday & we do another lesson Saturday morning & you are free to go or stay another night. Most people do three lessons in two days & stay 2 nights... (depending on the problems of course).. We will give you enough info between these lessons, the programs I will write & email to you & further unlimited communication via email & phone to get you sorted. I'm confident too that you could help. I know you said you're taking bookings for April now, but I have 16 days off towards the end of march, do you have any available weekday appointments ? Or are you fully booked out including weekdays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybeece Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I've been following this thread for a little while and just wanted to say good luck RottyLover01 I really admire your dedication and persistance with this dog and I hope a session with K9 will help straighten things out. I also understand how you feel. I had a behaviouralist come see my boy once who was lovely and extremely knowledgeable, but unfortunately her suggestions didn't have the impact I was hoping for. I also joined a dog school that had been recommended to help him, that bombed out. For me money has been a pretty big issue and I can't afford to just throw it away in the hope that someone can eventually help us, so now I just go an obedience club every week to slowly chip away at the problem by getting in some positive experiences and improving his obdience. He's not getting any worse and sometimes shows improvements and for now that's all I'm after. I'm really just biding my time until K9 and Erny put on their show in Victoria And hoping that K9 just maybe has room for a private consult.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 RL: I'm confident too that you could help. I know you said you're taking bookings for April now, but I have 16 days off towards the end of march, do you have any available weekday appointments ? Or are you fully booked out including weekdays ? K9: I dont make all the bookings, but I know for a fact there is not one place before April, not one on any day... If you are serious the best thing would be to send us an email [email protected] & find out when we can see you, book that place & hang on... Once we get started with you, honestly, the results come hard & fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkS Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Have you tried Craige Murray? He is probably one of the best up that way. He is on the Gold Coast. I would class him as one of the trainers/behaviourists at the top of his profession in Australia. http://www.dogschool.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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