Kaos Central Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I have 3 fur children, all female, i have a spoodle (7) and 2 jack russell terriers (both under 1). i recently took all three to the vet for check up and vaccinations, while i was there i learnt that the vet i have been seeing for the past 15 years or so has retired, My appointment was with a much younger vet. i mentioned to the vet that i wanted to book her in to be desexed, both of the other dogs are desexed and i have no intention of breeding with her and i would hate for her to get out and come home with something unexpected. the vet said that desexing is un-natural and not nessesary! What do you think? i am only new to Dogzonline but i value the opinion of other members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiMom Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 OMG!! maybe another vet. ALL dogs not for breeding or showing should be desexed, but I know some people don't like desexing their dogs. each to their own over this. I've always desexed my pets. Our puppy will be desexed when he's old enough. I've never heard a vet say it is unnatural. Must tell my vet bout this next visit also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riles Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I have 3 fur children, all female, i have a spoodle (7) and 2 jack russell terriers (both under 1). i recently took all three to the vet for check up and vaccinations, while i was there i learnt that the vet i have been seeing for the past 15 years or so has retired, My appointment was with a much younger vet. i mentioned to the vet that i wanted to book her in to be desexed, both of the other dogs are desexed and i have no intention of breeding with her and i would hate for her to get out and come home with something unexpected. the vet said that desexing is un-natural and not nessesary! What do you think? i am only new to Dogzonline but i value the opinion of other members. Get a new vet!!! Your definately on track with your own train of thought ie. get her desexed Riles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I have 3 fur children, all female, i have a spoodle (7) and 2 jack russell terriers (both under 1). i recently took all three to the vet for check up and vaccinations, while i was there i learnt that the vet i have been seeing for the past 15 years or so has retired, My appointment was with a much younger vet. i mentioned to the vet that i wanted to book her in to be desexed, both of the other dogs are desexed and i have no intention of breeding with her and i would hate for her to get out and come home with something unexpected. the vet said that desexing is un-natural and not nessesary! What do you think? i am only new to Dogzonline but i value the opinion of other members. I think you're new vet's views are unusual at best and down right irresponsible at worst. Clearly your new vet is not a member of the Australian Veterinary Association. This is the AVA policy on desexing: The Australian Veterinary Association (AVA) supports desexing of companion animals. Desexing is important in population control and has other benefits for the behaviour and health of animals. In general, the AVA does not support compulsory desexing, and considers that owner education is the most effective approach to encouraging owners to have their pets desexed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I've never known a vet to try to talk someone out of desexing! It is their bread and butter surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 The vet is quite right - desexing is unnatural. But in the wild, dogs/wolves only breed once a year, naturally lose pups, starve to death if they can't catch enough food and die of injuries and disease, so there is never an overpopulation problem. "Survival of the fittest" sees to that. Try telling the vet that it is also "unnatural" to perform surgeries, treat disease or injury or feed dogs instead of making them hunt for it. Vets would be out of business very quickly if they never performed any "unnatural" procedures Ask the vet to perform a hysterectomy leaving an ovary intact if his objection is over loss of hormones and see what he says. It is "unnatural" for an entire bitch not to be bred, and this will cause pyometra in a number of bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It sounds like this new vet of yours needs to do a few sessions in the euthansia room at one of the pounds. Lets see what he thinks of 'natural' then. I would be finding another vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 He might be one of those vets we hear about every now and then who sell puppies and crosses.. a couple of litters would be a nice earner for him. GET A NEW VET !!!! I cant believe that he said this, seriously.. our vet is proactive to the point of discussing it at every vaccination and check up until they are booked in and done from 12 weeks onwards. No excuse for undesexed companion animals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog_Horse_Girl Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I think it's time to find a new vet...this one seems to be a little dense in regards to animal welfare and AVA policy. BTW - you might prefer to call your poodle cross spaniel just that rather than "spoodle". Many of the poodle breeders here are (quite rightly) rather upset that their breed is misused to create these crossbred dogs, to say the least. We love crossbred dogs and many of us actually own crossbreds, but we don't condone their deliberate creation or the profiteering that the puppy mills, backyard breeders, and pet shops engage in with such crosses. :D Two of my dogs are crossbreds, but they were both rescues and in need of a loving, permanent home which we happily provide for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I have 3 fur children, all female, i have a spoodle (7) and 2 jack russell terriers (both under 1). i recently took all three to the vet for check up and vaccinations, while i was there i learnt that the vet i have been seeing for the past 15 years or so has retired, My appointment was with a much younger vet. i mentioned to the vet that i wanted to book her in to be desexed, both of the other dogs are desexed and i have no intention of breeding with her and i would hate for her to get out and come home with something unexpected. the vet said that desexing is un-natural and not nessesary! What do you think? i am only new to Dogzonline but i value the opinion of other members. Go to another vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvawilow Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Desexing is unnatural however so are a lot of things in the world. I think that ALL pets (cats, dogs, rabbits, etc) should be desexed if they are not registered purebreds that are being shown or part of a breeding program. My 2 xbred girls are desexed, so are my cats and my pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I have 2 dogs and they were desexed at 6 months with no problems. I've never had a dog that wasn't desexed, both crossbreeds and purebreeds. If your dog was registered with my council it would cost $140 vs. $40 (desexed). Why would you want to make life more complicated for a pet? Best to desex, IMO. It's best overall for a pet's health and wellbeing and avoids the mess associated with seasons. It's incredible the lengths a dog will go to to get to a bitch in heat, so you might have adequate fences for your dog, but not someone else's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I would right a letter to the owner of the practise asking why the vet you saw believes this. I would point out that for 15 yrs you have used that clinic but after the last visit will be seriously considering changing vets due to those comments . I would certainly see what vets are around incase you dont get a good response but i would make the clinic accountable for there staffs comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I don't think he was a vet at all, I think he was a doctor who had gone to the wrong address by mistake, and thought you wanted to get your husband desexed!! Seriously, I would really like to know why he thinks like that. Wonder if he picked it up at Uni or he simply thinks like that. Most peculiar. I don't think desexing is a cure-all for everything, as is often suggested, but it is THE cure-all for unwanted pups, and pyo. And, I'd be telling the owner of the practice. If he is the owner, I would find another vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos Central Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 I think it's time to find a new vet...this one seems to be a little dense in regards to animal welfare and AVA policy. BTW - you might prefer to call your poodle cross spaniel just that rather than "spoodle". Many of the poodle breeders here are (quite rightly) rather upset that their breed is misused to create these crossbred dogs, to say the least. We love crossbred dogs and many of us actually own crossbreds, but we don't condone their deliberate creation or the profiteering that the puppy mills, backyard breeders, and pet shops engage in with such crosses. Two of my dogs are crossbreds, but they were both rescues and in need of a loving, permanent home which we happily provide for them. All of my dogs have been rescues.... i have issues with the whole designer dog market, what people are willing to do to make money is appalling.... when i got Pepsi, she has been rescued after spending 14 hour in a reflex paper box..... she was purchased online from a "breeder" she was barely 6 weeks old, freezing and close to death...... the person that had purchased her dumped her on our door step... rang the bell and ran.... i found out her story when i took her to the vet.... her microchip had her new owners details and they told the vet the story. i couldn't bare to see her go through any more so i nursed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos Central Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 Thank you all for you replies...... I have spoken to the vet clinic and decided to go looking for another vet in our area. When I contacted them, there stance was that the vet has spoken....I dont agree and i have decided to take my business elsewhere. This is the same vet that offered to put down a one of my friends kittens because it had poor markings. Sicko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Working Dog Lover Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 That is one bizarre vet, IMHO. Won't desex, yet culls on the basis of colour. I used to know an old man who believed that all dogs should be left entire as it was unnatural to desex them, and it was also unnatural to confine them because they were meant to run free. I'm not sure he'd thought out the consequences!!! I used to breed and show fancy mice, and my non breeding boys were always desexed, that way they could live with a friend. If in doubt, cut 'em out, I reckon Audrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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