Antibarking Ecollar?

[Poodle wrangler]

I've already posted about our dog's new barking problem. New for the younger, louder dog.

The older dog (mini poodle) is dominant, and tends to be a barker. Will I need to address his barking first, or, is it better to address both at the same time?

The 8 month old standard poodle's barking seems to be related to being left alone.

I'm doing TOT with him and he will bark on tie out. I wait for a break in the barking b4 bringing the food out. He's looking at me now, not the food. I'm also giving a bone and leaving him outside for about an hour. I hope to gradually increase this.

If I was to use an antibark ecollar, would both dogs need one? (feels purse strings tighten ). I'd like to get on top of the problem b4 a noise complaint is made and both dogs are walked daily and the younger goes to obedience.

ETA: Is it possible for them to "share" a collar. Problem could be the approx. 15 kg size difference.

Thanks for any responses

Edited August 1, 2007 by Poodle wrangler

[KitKat]

I'd be working out which was the bigger problem...eg is the older dog barking more often? only when you aren't home? is the younger dog barking once the older dog starts? or again only when you are not home?

Could be that you can get one collar and use it on both dogs if they are barking at differing times?

Probably worth looking at the collars that require both sound and vibration to trigger a correction rather then ones that just use noise or just vibration. also check out places online...i found quite a range of prices for the same item just by looking at different online stores for example

ETA - some places let you rent them as well - might be worth looking into?

Edited August 1, 2007 by KitKat

[Poodle wrangler]

I'd be working out which was the bigger problem...eg is the older dog barking more often? only when you aren't home? is the younger dog barking once the older dog starts? or again only when you are not home?

Could be that you can get one collar and use it on both dogs if they are barking at differing times?

Probably worth looking at the collars that require both sound and vibration to trigger a correction rather then ones that just use noise or just vibration. also check out places online...i found quite a range of prices for the same item just by looking at different online stores for example

ETA - some places let you rent them as well - might be worth looking into?

Suspect I'd need 2 collars for better results . The older dog is teaching the younger one his bad habits.

Problem was yesterday I needed to leave the younger dog in the backyard and he barked for 30 minutes solid at much higher volume that the little one is capable of- 25kg deep-chested vs. 8kg- I think because he's used to at least another dog for company. I could hear him 500m away .

Making the problem worse is 2 dogs that bark from across 3 fairways of golf course- both dogs are starting to bark back.

[KitKat]

Both these sites may be of interest?

www.barkcontrol.com.au

www.hushpuppy.com.au

Was thinking with the size difference two different collars may be the better bet anyway...eg smaller model for the little guy.

[Poodle wrangler]

Thanks KitKat.

I saw this on one of the sites to buy an ecollar:

NSW and ACT customers must have a qualified veterinarian-issued prescription for a static correction product prior to purchase. By placing an order, NSW and ACT customers agree that they have such authorisation in hand to purchase the product(s) in question. NSW and ACT customers agree to take on any and all legal liability if their claim is proven by law to be falsely represented.

http://www.hushpuppy.com.au/terms_and_policies.html#31

This is one of the collars: http://www.hushpuppy.com.au/iki_pulse.html

Or, do I have it wrong and is a "static correction product" different to an antibark ecollar ;) ?

Edited August 1, 2007 by Poodle wrangler

[Steve K9Pro]

The older dog (mini poodle) is dominant, and tends to be a barker. Will I need to address his barking first, or, is it better to address both at the same time?

K9: It is better to do both at the same time as one may be triggering the other.

The 8 month old standard poodle's barking seems to be related to being left alone.

I'm doing TOT with him and he will bark on tie out. I wait for a break in the barking b4 bringing the food out. He's looking at me now, not the food. I'm also giving a bone and leaving him outside for about an hour. I hope to gradually increase this.

K9: yes this will help..

If I was to use an antibark ecollar, would both dogs need one? (feels purse strings tighten ).

K9: no, but you will stand a better chance with two collars.

I'd like to get on top of the problem b4 a noise complaint is made and both dogs are walked daily and the younger goes to obedience.

ETA: Is it possible for them to "share" a collar. Problem could be the approx. 15 kg size difference.

K9: it depends on your preference really, brand of collar & size of each dog, but essentially yes.

We have several brands & hire them out too.

www.k9force.net

Edited August 2, 2007 by K9 Force

[Poodle wrangler]

Thanks for that K9 .

2 collars, I guess.

Are any brands better than others at avoiding going off when the dog's NOT barking e.g. playing or jumping causes vibration?

I've read this is more a problem in smaller dogs who are active e.g. mine! The barking is sometimes a problem when he's playing with the larger dog.