Vaccinations

[Poodle wrangler]

Problem here is that you cannot legally get the "proper" vaccines from anyone other than a vet and pups should be vet-checked anyway.

A breeder needs to only give one vaccination, if pups go at 8-10 weeks. What's to be gained by a vet nurse, instead of a vet, giving the injection? If you're legitimate, that is.

(BTW, Registered nurses vaccinate humans, but I don't think that's the point here).

[cavNrott]

Problem here is that you cannot legally get the "proper" vaccines from anyone other than a vet and pups should be vet-checked anyway.

A breeder needs to only give one vaccination, if pups go at 8-10 weeks. What's to be gained by a vet nurse, instead of a vet, giving the injection? If you're legitimate, that is.

(BTW, Registered nurses vaccinate humans, but I don't think that's the point here).

Quite true Poodle wrangler. Only a vet is qualified to vaccinate and sign the vacc certificate so a vacc given by a Vet nurse isn't legal.

My son is a registered nurse and has been for more years than he cares to remember. He gives injections and positions canulas into humans but isn't qualified to vaccinate or chip a dog.

When he adopted a dog from a shelter we found the dog hadn't been microchipped (there had been a stuff up with paperwork). It was a Sunday afternoon and no one at the shelter was an accredited microchipper. We had to chase around all over the Eastern suburbs with the dog looking for a vet who was open to chip her and fax the papers through to the shelter.

[KaiGSD&Cav]

We have a vet come to our dog club to do vaccinations & microchips, he charges less then half what practice vets do and the club uses it as a fundraiser.

Some of our beginner members feel totally ripped off that they paid twice as much a month before.

Edited July 31, 2007 by KaiserGSD

[twoweis]

Surely there should be no issue of whether you can get these things 'cheap' or 'diy' ... if you are looking for these things, then perhaps you should think again about breeding puppies; they're not just a money making machine and hopefully you are not thinking this way. Do it all above board and ensure you provide the best for your new pups, including vetting new owners. Please ;)

[mjaay]

Surely there should be no issue of whether you can get these things 'cheap' or 'diy' ... if you are looking for these things, then perhaps you should think again about breeding puppies; they're not just a money making machine and hopefully you are not thinking this way. Do it all above board and ensure you provide the best for your new pups, including vetting new owners. Please

Well i have to say that it was my mistake that a simple little question would cause so much crap,and as far a thinking again about breeding a litter ,this wasnt planned and i show my dogs to the best of their

abilities,which may i add, my dog being titled and my bitch 3/4 of the way to her title.

Well, and as far as a money making machine goes, you tell me and many other breeders how the hell our kennels can become a money making machine,as gosh i'm sure i'm not the only one who would like to know your secret and just how well it works.

Thankyou for you input.

best regards

mjaay

[Staff'n'Toller]

If you are a registered breeder then you shouldn't be looking to microchip illegally or unethically then, should you? Nevermind the Vaccinations....someone will come in and comment on the COE for Vic I'm sure.

Mel.

[cavNrott]

Rather than it being 'a simple little question' it was a series of questions all about cutting costs, or corners if you like, in having your litter of puppies vaccinated and microchipped.

You were given a few tips to save some money but it seems you object to people suggesting that everything should be done properly and ethically by a qualified vet.

[mjaay]

I'm really confused as to why you're bothering to vacc or chip at all if you desperately need to do it on the cheap...why bother? You obviously don't care that much about your litter anyway if you insist on doing everthing illegally. Why are you even breeding?

That's my question too. Why are you breeding dogs if you're not prepared to pay for a qualified vet to vaccinate and chip? :p

You mentioned that these pups have been vet checked. Was the check done by the vet nurse or has a qualified a veterinarian health checked the puppies?.

It's so disapointing to see that i,ve done so wrong in asking a question ,I thought that this was what a forum was for .

If i have had my puppies checked by a vet i mean they have been check ,i dont think any of you are qualified to question somebody elses doings.And CARE you need to look in your own back yards BOTH of you ,i have found myself sleeping in the shed with my dogs with a wood fire that was fitted prior to the impending birth, I watch my dogs and pups nite and day just incase something may happen so dont you all sit back in your little boring worlds and tell me about raising a litter.

And as far as why i'm breeding ,i breed so that someone else has a chance to own a quality puppy and to help the breed better it's self.

regards from a very dissapointed breeder.

[cavNrott]

Well i have to say that it was my mistake that a simple little question would cause so much crap,and as far a thinking again about breeding a litter ,this wasnt planned

It's so disapointing to see that i,ve done so wrong in asking a question ,I thought that this was what a forum was for .

If i have had my puppies checked by a vet i mean they have been check ,i dont think any of you are qualified to question somebody elses doings.And CARE you need to look in your own back yards BOTH of you ,i have found myself sleeping in the shed with my dogs with a wood fire that was fitted prior to the impending birth, I watch my dogs and pups nite and day just incase something may happen so dont you all sit back in your little boring worlds and tell me about raising a litter.

And as far as why i'm breeding ,i breed so that someone else has a chance to own a quality puppy and to help the breed better it's self.

You said the litter wasn't planned...and then you said you are breeding so other people can own a quality puppy and to better the breed

The replies you received were in direct response to your questions about cutting costs to vaccinate and microchip your pups and not about how to raise a litter. There are many ethical, registered and very experienced breeders here who are more than qualified to give advice which they do freely and willingly to other registered breeders.

As for looking in our own backyards. For me that's not necessary. My dogs all live inside the house so I have no need to sleep in a shed. I don't have any desire to breed dogs so I don't give advice on how to raise a litter. However, I do know the minimum requirement is to have a vet vaccinate and a vet or registered microchip person to chip the litter. You, evidently didn't even know that :p

Edited August 6, 2007 by cavNrott

[shellbyville]

I think that when the time comes to sell your puppies, the prospective puppy buyers would want to know that the pups have been vet checked and vaccinated/microchipped by a vet as well. I have bought puppies from breeders in the past and the thing that impressed me most about the breeders that I bought a pup from was that they took great care in planning the litter, obviously took pride in the pups they had produced. I would not buy a pup from someone that I think cut corners (even if the pups were vaccinated correctly) I would think if they cut corners in one area, they may have cut corners in other areas such as the nutrition of the pup, the care given to the pup etc.

I do understand it is expensive to raise a litter of pups, but truly you need to make sure that everything is done correctly so that you can sell your puppies with a good conscience that you have done absolutely the best for them, and your puppy buyers can have that assurance as well.

[mjaay]

Well i have to say that it was my mistake that a simple little question would cause so much crap,and as far a thinking again about breeding a litter ,this wasnt planned

It's so disapointing to see that i,ve done so wrong in asking a question ,I thought that this was what a forum was for .

If i have had my puppies checked by a vet i mean they have been check ,i dont think any of you are qualified to question somebody elses doings.And CARE you need to look in your own back yards BOTH of you ,i have found myself sleeping in the shed with my dogs with a wood fire that was fitted prior to the impending birth, I watch my dogs and pups nite and day just incase something may happen so dont you all sit back in your little boring worlds and tell me about raising a litter.

And as far as why i'm breeding ,i breed so that someone else has a chance to own a quality puppy and to help the breed better it's self.

You said the litter wasn't planned...and then you said you are breeding so other people can own a quality puppy and to better the breed

The replies you received were in direct response to your questions about cutting costs to vaccinate and microchip your pups and not about how to raise a litter. There are many ethical, registered and very experienced breeders here who are more than qualified to give advice which they do freely and willingly to other registered breeders.

As for looking in our own backyards. For me that's not necessary. My dogs all live inside the house so I have no need to sleep in a shed. I don't have any desire to breed dogs so I don't give advice on how to raise a litter. However, I do know the minimum requirement is to have a vet vaccinate and a vet or registered microchip person to chip the litter. You, evidently didn't even know that :rolleyes:

MMMMM,so there for you dont have the knowledge of breeding so why comment so ubruptly,and at the end of the day it was a simple question that was asked and its a pitty that there are so many people that like to jump the gate before seeing whats on the other side first.

[cavNrott]

MMMMM,so there for you dont have the knowledge of breeding so why comment so ubruptly,and at the end of the day it was a simple question that was asked and its a pitty that there are so many people that like to jump the gate before seeing whats on the other side first.

That I don't breed dogs is exactly why I didn't give advice on breeding or caring for a litter. I leave the breeding of dogs up to people who know what they are doing. Those who are ethical and registered.

I do know that pups need to be vaccinated by a vet and microchipped by a qualified chipper. I don't need to breed a litter to know that. Any dog owner worth their salt would know. How come you didn't know? It's pretty basic.

The reason people replied as they did is because you asked various questions and they were all about how to cut corners and do things on the cheap. Ethical registered breeders know what to do and they do it right. They don't cut corners to save a dollar.

We don't always need to see what's on the other side of the fence. If something smells really off then it means something is off.