Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 has anyone viewed his MYSPACE page?... or this www.cesarmillaninc.com Of course, I need a quick glimpse of the cheeky little mexican sometimes ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Im quite partial to a little Mexican from time to time myself.. I think we have gone off topic a little here.. and acting like randy little puppies lmao ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShellyBeggs Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ;) well.... I am upto page 81 of the 183 pages and loving the book! So many things he says makes sense........ If anyone wants to borrow it pm me! Cheers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 Girls, girls, girls, settle down. ha ha. I would train with Mr (or Mrs) Frankenstein if I thought they could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Im quite partial to a little Mexican from time to time myself..I think we have gone off topic a little here.. and acting like randy little puppies lmao ;) Oops yes, er, um, Sorry ! :cool: Seriously now, I would love to have a chat with him about a few things that have been playing on my mind........................ ..............and then I might also mention my dogs ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Im quite partial to a little Mexican from time to time myself.. I think we have gone off topic a little here.. and acting like randy little puppies lmao ;) Oops yes, er, um, Sorry ! Seriously now, I would love to have a chat with him about a few things that have been playing on my mind........................ ;) :cool: TOO TOO FUNNY............ dogs?..what dogs? OHHH...yeah! thats right... Im going to d/l his dvd's if i can..and watch it at night like poor mans porno ..............and then I might also mention my dogs ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ;) Cesar Milan Porno............................................don't I'm having visions ....................haw, haw, cheeky little mexican, you bad boy ;) :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ;) Now, now ladies.....you'll all just have to wait your turn....I have ticket no. 00001 !!! I enjoy watching how he works and especially how he deals with owners. Wonderful stuff! Apparently he does not have any formal qualifications in dog behaviour/psychology but he most certainly knows his stuff and makes things look rather easy - which can sometimes be a worry as I feel some very novice handlers will want to try his techniques and may end up bitten. .......but he can park his shoes under my bed...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 he does make it look easy doesnt he... how did he learn so much about animals? Forget where he can park his shoes..lets just say his "doh" can stay in MY "kennel" anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 i mean DOG>.sheesh....i ruined it his DOG can saty in my kennel..BUGGA!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 ;) ;) He even has a way of making people screw up their spelling too :cool: I'm off to bed now, to dream that the OH is a cheeky little mexican ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Goodnight.. sweet dreams (wink wink) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Leadership (this way Cesar).... Excercise (Like this Cesar).... Affection (Ooh la la) ;) ;) Night all :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 You are all mad and bad AND sex crazed. On the other hand, I am mad and bad only!!! I have been thinking today (shows I really really really need a life besides thinking about my dogs), about item 7. Corrections should be the same intensity of the dogs action. On first reading this I thought OK.......I like that, reverse of purely positive training with jackpotting etc. Upon further contemplation he he, this afternoon, I do not agree. Dogs learn very well to work through low corrections, naggin if you will. Back to pondering and being bad and mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I have to say, I've thought the same about the intesity of corrections, and I can understand why too. Why, spend ages nagging for a serious issue, when you can resolve it much quicker, therefore the dog is rewarded quicker ! Just my thoughts oh and...Cesar can correct me if he likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushaka Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 75% downloaded some of the lil Mexicans dvd. not far off some tittilating viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Mal Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 You did have to go and upset me didn't you ..."la, la, la, That's why I fell for.......the leader of the pack" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) Corrections should be the same intensity of the dogs action. My line of thought, when I had read this, was in agreement with what I have previously found - ie the earlier in the dog's behaviour that you apply a correction, the less a correction needs to be, to be as equally effective. For an "obedience" example - dog in a down-stay. A verbal correction for it bringing its elbows off the ground. The verbal correction is less likely to be as effective if the owner's timing waits until the dog is fully up. For a "behaviour" example - dog just becoming "still" in the presence of another dog. A verbal correction may well be sufficient whereas an owner waiting for the dog to eye-ball and then even progress into its reaction, the verbal is quite possibly not going to be enough for the dog to quit its behaviour or to even take it on board as a negative to the behaviour. (Disclaimer: Not a good example, as I won't necessarily use a correction for this behavioural response - much depends on the dog and whether it sports 'issues'.) This is the way I read Cesar's comment about corrections and if I am reading it correctly, then it is something I agree with. Although I probably would have worded it differently. I usually say that the earlier you correct a dog through the course of its unwanted behaviour, the less the correction needs to be to be effective. I am now wondering if that's what he meant though. ETA: IMO, Cesar was referencing to "effective" corrections, not "nagging" (ie ineffective) corrections. Although I would have thought that for a correction to be effective, it would need to be slightly higher than the intent of the dog's behaviour for it to think twice the next time around. So my next question would be how does Cesar measure a dog's intensity of behaviour and equate that to "same" intensity of correction? Edited July 12, 2007 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re item 2. IMO that is too simplistic. My "happy" dogs have a range of behaviours, from asleep to calm to active to excited. And to be an effective owner, I need to be able to say to them, now be calm, now be excited. To manage their emotional states. If they were "calm" all the time, they would miss out on many experiences that they enjoy. And also not be as effective in performance, e.g. for high intensity work, low intensity "calmness" is not going to provide the same level of work. Granted that the paragraph is second hand, written by someone else, so the intended meaning may be getting lost in the multiple interpretations (hers and then mine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think the writer was suggesting that we often interpret excitement (eg jumping up; bouncing around; etc. on greeting us) with true happiness, when it could be (and in my experience is often) the dog's expression of 'relief' of its anxiety that it had felt when the owner (ITS pack) was absent. But you're right, Sidoney - "interpretation" of what is written there is the key and is often mis-construed in the absence of additional explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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