SwaY Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Why can't people control there dogs on lead???? :D This morning we went to agility to have a look with Smokey, and to see Stella Smoke had a little play on the equipment. Loves the jumps, Doesn't like the tunnel, becasue he doesn't fit that well Didn't like the weavers, but within 3 goes he was loving it. Anyway back to my mindless vent. The amount of people who let there dogs walk on a lose lead and don't watch where they wander. It's almost if there dog isn't pulling or barking there don't care. Smokey was standing there this morning, lokoing at Hubby etc. Little dog comes along, wanders on over has a sniff, then barks. Smoke spins around looks with a WTF look on his face. The owner stopped, as the dog wasn't going anywhere and there was tension on the lead. Basicly they had to stop or yank the dog. Then the dog barks and barks, no correction from the owner. Just a simple of thats a big dog. Yeah well it is, now get over it. And the dog keeps barking, and they do nothing, finally they wander off. Control your F**King dog!!! :p Just because it's on a lead doesn't mean it's controled. It happened a few times to us, and other people that i saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 Oh and i should add, those with larger or deemed by the public to be vicious/mean/nasty dogs Where all controled and being watched by the handler. I will also post comment on the small dogs with do not rush or not friendly vests on :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J... Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yep completely agree with you! The other thing that annoys me is the ones who seem to think everyones dog is an opportunity to socialise theirs without asking the owner!!! Then you become the bad guy for saying something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 I agree with that aswell!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 agreed and i have raised the issue several times and the barking dogs god i need earplugs its hard wehn the baddies are all committee though they dont listen arrrrrgggggghhhhhh maybe i should run for committeee hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 yes you and i both :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 god f we were both on committee the club would have a heart attack eheh im in love with smokey but promise me he wont ever gve me a big sloppy kiss coz those are some mean jowls rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 feralpup i agree i can be quite rude if people let their dog just get in my dogs face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J... Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 WMR - Worst thing is its often club members who should know better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 I was just commenting this morning how I was training yesterday and there were barking + reactive dogs everywhere, and in contrast how nice it was to go to my private club to instruct this morning and hear n o t h i n g....4 classes running and no noise...it's all in the owner education and the stress level of the dogs. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 god f we were both on committee the club would have a heart attack ehehim in love with smokey but promise me he wont ever gve me a big sloppy kiss coz those are some mean jowls rofl They need a big shake up, i stood at the table for 5 min with two people walking around me setting up. Not once did they say can i help you, nor be with you in a minute. He does like to gives kisses first thing in the morning :p We always carry a rang to clean up the drool :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloss344 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 It seems people without dogs who have issues such as anxiety or fear or whatever really don't understand how these dog's do need their space. They don't perceive a problem with letting their dog rush or encroach on another dog's space. My Bob wears a yellow bandana at club, because he has stress and anxiety issues which can cause him to be fear aggressive. The yellow bandana alerts other dog owners to the fact that the dog wearing it has some sorto of issue which requires the dog have space. Seems pretty simple to me. No, every week I have to have eyes in the back of my head because others let their dogs wander and rush over to us while we are standing still. I move, and the handler and dog follow. Today OH took Bob to class. A woman walked into class with a quite vocal dog, looks at Bob and asks OH "what issues does your dog have" OH explains he is fear aggressive etc. Her reply was "he looks okay to me". WTF. The bandana is not a fashion accessory. He wears it for a reason. Once you have a reactive dog you never quite see the world the same way when your dog is with you. I understand a lot of people at dog club think it's great to let their dogs socialise. Well and dandy just keep away from Bob and his yellow bandana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Well said bloss344! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livi Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Then the dog barks and barks, no correction from the owner. Just a simple of thats a big dog.Yeah well it is, now get over it. And the dog keeps barking, and they do nothing, finally they wander off. Control your F**King dog!!! Just because it's on a lead doesn't mean it's controled. It happened a few times to us, and other people that i saw. By Law or by Etiquette ? If the dog is onlead and not causing a danger, then I guess it is in control..barking or not ? Personally I would leave if my dog was barking and wouldn't settle (or ask for help in getting the dog to stop being ridiculous) but I don't think it is a requirement of "control" as far as dog laws go ? For example if a little dog was onlead near my big dog, and the little dog barked and snarled and jumped and snapped but his owner had a good grip on the lead..and my big dog lunged and overpowered me/caught me off balance and chomped the little dog (not that he would) I'd be legally in big trouble I think !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms James Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 At our club, it's always drummed into us to ask the owners before you approach another dog, so it's a good practice I've gotten into at both the club & when we're out walking, it's just the polite thing to do. I've gotten to know the dogs that walk around here when I'm with my sociable girl (Bella), so I know which one I should cross the road for & say a gday from there & who's up for a chat. Usually it's people's kids that give us big grins when we walk past, we always ask the parents if they want to come & say hi, but then again I like being neighbourly We've got orange leads for the problem doggies at our club, and people usually respect that & keep a nice distance from us when we're with our problem child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Well said, Bloss344! I think it's sometimes hard for people who only own sociable dogs to understand quite how stressful it can be to have an aggressive or reactive dog. It's bad enough having to have eyes in the back of your head at obedience club in case some uncontrolled dog escapes the leash, without having to worry about well meaning people deciding to let their onleash dogs "socialise" with yours without asking. I think you're quite correct that people often mistakenly think that if your dog isn't acting like a loony, he can't be aggressive. I have lost track of the number of well meaning people who have told me that I am being "over protective" since my dog "looks OK" around other dogs. They don't seem to believe me that my dog is only acting politely because he knows I expect him to completely ignore the other dogs - if another dog gets close enough that he simply can't ignore it, then watch out! His obedience skills still don't mean that he's necessarily going to be sociable or safe when other dogs get in his face. Of course, I think a lot of these issues can be avoided by choosing a good club. Some instructors and clubs are very considerate when it comes to creating an atmosphere of respect and safety for non-social dogs and their owners. Whereas other clubs seem to wish that we'd just disappear and stop disrupting the class with our "bad dogs". Thanks for the chance to rant! :D Edited July 8, 2007 by Amhailte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 absolutely i know of a couple of good clubs where tey are very well structured and run smoothly my club isnt what i would call a great club it suits me because im left alone to do what i wnt but really if your looking for good instruction and manners from members i'd reccomend heading down the highway to hastings last tme i was there they were very good organsised and sensible rexy goes there and loves t I actually dont reccomend my club fo newbies as the stress levels are too high for me its fine my dogs arent anywhere near all the carryingons and everyone knows to stay well out of my way when im training lol The dogs in question ar a big isuue and i know that when i get my new puppy we wont be going down there for a while until he/she is well neatrualised to stupidity rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 You forgot to add this part to the quote Smokey was standing there this morning, lokoing at Hubby etc. Little dog comes along, wanders on over has a sniff, then barks. Smoke spins around looks with a WTF look on his face. Then the dog barks and barks, no correction from the owner. Just a simple of thats a big dog. Yeah well it is, now get over it. And the dog keeps barking, and they do nothing, finally they wander off. Control your F**King dog!!! Just because it's on a lead doesn't mean it's controled. It happened a few times to us, and other people that i saw. By Law or by Etiquette ? If the dog is onlead and not causing a danger, then I guess it is in control..barking or not ? The sniffing set the dog off, he was fine untill he got to sniff Smoke. The danger is they don't know my dog, he may fire up, he may not. He should not have been able to get close enough to sniff. The barking issue is Etiquette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) I totally understand Sway - and I bet you cop it a lot coz you have such big dogs :D. I must admit - Kinta sometimes has a spooky woof at the giant breeds - but never to that extent - I always bring her back under my control and pretty much tell her to get over it. NEVER would I spring a dog on anyone.... some people don't have any common sense! Good boy Smokey for just standing there with a confused look on his face ("uhh.... do you *really* want to take me on" !) Edited July 9, 2007 by leopuppy04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloss344 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Well said, Bloss344! I think you're quite correct that people often mistakenly think that if your dog isn't acting like a loony, he can't be aggressive. I have lost track of the number of well meaning people who have told me that I am being "over protective" since my dog "looks OK" around other dogs. They don't seem to believe me that my dog is only acting politely because he knows I expect him to completely ignore the other dogs - if another dog gets close enough that he simply can't ignore it, then watch out! His obedience skills still don't mean that he's necessarily going to be sociable or safe when other dogs get in his face. Yep, what they don't realise is I have taken Bob to obedience every week when it's on regardless of rain, hail or shine, so he gets socialisation and training. We did one year at one club then changed over to another, started again in Basic, worked through and have completed Intermediate which is like the CCD class. Him acting politely didn't happen overnight or even in one year. I don't need people with their well meaning ideas to undo the work I have done because they think my dog needs a friend in his face. I really needed this rant too. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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